Re: Secret Source code ...

From: Boo (noadr_at_none.org)
Date: 03/07/04 

Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:21:00 +0100

Thanks for this nice answer, unfortunatly, i've already check codeguru and
codeproject and google, that's why i ask here. The codes i found are exactly
the sames as what i have done. The one i wanted to use is ultra buggy.
Sorry.

Boo

PS : I had never complain, i just asked about explorer code.

"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer@flounder.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:lavm40pmfdqgt2khb337uuchbc16evtpsh@4ax.com...
> AHHHH, that's different! What you have here is not a need for a tree
control, but a need
> for an explorer. And that's an application, not a control. The stuff that
makes "my
> documents" work is not the tree control itself, but the tons of code
around it that
> interpret those elements.
>
> Buying visual studio doesn't give you every control ever written by
everyone, and
> certainly not every control written by Microsoft. While it would actually
help them to
> make many of these controls widely available, each such control generates
a need to create
> documentation and provide support. And that has to have a justification
from a business
> perspective. I'd love to see them myself.
>
> There are many resources of good free code out there; www.codeproject.com
and
> www.codeguru.com are two of my favorites, but google will give you a LOT
of hits.
>
> (And, I should add, if you've figured out how to do this, perhaps you owe
the community
> the benefit of your efforts, and should publish your code. I tend to get a
little upset
> with people who make a Big Deal about Unix/Linux/Open Source, but when I
ask them how much
> THEY have put out in open source the answer is "nothing" because "I don't
have time" or
> "It's really proprietary" or "I don't want to give my work away").
>
> I make no excuses; I write code that has value, and I sell it to clients.
But a lot of my
> code gets put on my Web site, particularly that which has no proprietary
conflicts. But I
> consider myself an educator.
>
> There's a lot of really good code out there, open source and free in
Windows. Until you've
> actually gone out and done the search, you shouldn't complain just because
Microsoft keeps
> their code private (in the history of operating systems, virtually no
system I know of has
> been "Open Source", with the exception of ITS (MIT), the Stanford
University SAIL version
> of a PDP-10 operating system whose acronym I've forgotten, and Linux. I'm
reasonably
> certain the 7090 operating system developed by the IBM User Group called
SHARE was
> open-source, but that was not an IBM product (IBM had a really good
open-source library
> where outsiders could make contributions; my first three published
programs were published
> in that library, back around 1966-1967) There have been a lot of
open-source application
> efforts, most notably GNU. FreeBSD and OpenBSD are, as I remember, roughly
around the time
> of Linux. But most operating system code from IBM, Univac, Digital, and
several other
> companies whose equipment I worked with was clearly copyrighted material
and in some cases
> I had to sign non-disclosure agreements to see it at all. Unix was never
open source, and
> still isn't, in spite of the fact that tens of thousands of programmers
have seen it
> (millions of people have read popular books but that doesn't give the
readers the right to
> reproduce the contents, plots, etc. and claim them as their own). So
Microsoft is
> essentially no different from any other commercial operating system and
application
> company in the world, except they're bigger (try asking Corel for the
source code for
> their products, or Adobe, or Cisco, or MacroMedia, or...). When you buy
MacroMedia Flash
> (a development environment) you don't buy the rights to their source code.
Why do you
> think Microsoft owes you their source code because you bought their
development
> environment?
>
> joe
>
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:36:26 +0100, "Boo" <noadr@none.org> wrote:
>
> >I already did that and already program it (IShellFolder /
> >SHGetSpecialFolderLocation / SHGetDesktopFolder / SHGetMalloc ...). But i
> >would like to know if there is an existing class or a free code to
implement
> >this like in 3D exploration software. I can't spend 3 or 4 months to
> >implement right mouse button, copy/paste, move, ...
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >Boo
> >
> >"Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr@earthlink.net> a écrit dans le message de
> >news:edDi63FBEHA.2628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> The tree view is a standard control. See "Tree-View Controls" in the
> >> platform SDK.
> >>
> >> To fill the tree with real folders, check User Interface
Services/Windows
> >> Shell/Shell Reference" for shell enumeration interface. See there also
for
> >> drag-drop and context menu interfaces.
> >>
> >> "Boo" <noadr@none.org> wrote in message
> >> news:c2euua$kmd$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr...
> >> >
> >> > Is the left side view of explorer a secret source code or what ?
I
> >> just
> >> > would like to integrate the folder tree of the explorer in one of my
> >app.
> >> > and i couldnt find any class or function to integrate it. I found on
the
> >> web
> >> > some samples and some class that use to be 'fakes' and implement
their
> >own
> >> > method to browse folders, like that, impossible to use drag&ndrop
> >methods,
> >> > right mouse button properties, rename ...
> >> > Do I really need to implement all those functions ? isnt there an
> >> > existing class or template ? If all must be rewrite again, why did i
> >> bought
> >> > visual stuio ? ;-)
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for your answers, i'm sure i'm not the first
who
> >ask
> >> > that.
> >> >
> >> > Boo
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
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