Re: How good an encryption algorithm is this?

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From: Bonj (benjtaylor)
Date: 11/25/04

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    > The weakness described in the laptop <-> home server scenario is the same
    > as the weakness in your scenario: anyone who gets a way of seeing the
    > encrypted data will be able to use a statistical attack to work out what
    > the key is. The only difference between the scenario I described and the
    > one you describe is where this encrypted data lives, and by extension, the
    > way in which the attacker gets her hands on that data. In the networked
    > scenario, you'd use a packet sniffer. But in your case, you would need to
    > harvest encrypted passwords from the registries of various users'
    > machines. But having obtained sufficient encrypted data, the statistical
    > crypto attack is identical in both cases because the attack is the same in
    > both cases.

    Right, I see the point now. If you can see the encrypted target, and you can
    see the plaintext and the encrypted version of a 'control example' (or a
    few), then you can derive the key and hence decrypt the target.

    >
    > The fact that I'm doing this with data in the registry rather than data
    > being sent over the network is wholly irrelevant - the important thing
    > about the example I gave is that the encrypted data that is directly
    > visible to an attacker. (You've made it clear this is the case, since the
    > attack you describe involves the attacker having access to the machine.
    > They would need to get this access repeatedly to launch this particular
    > attack of course.) And even if the key may not be as directly visible to
    > them, the encrypted data can be used to discover the key. (Or a bit
    > pattern that is as good as the key.)

    Right, I see - I didn't get the point you were making in that the only thing
    about the network is that you can see the data going over it. I was falsely
    under the impression that your network example was implying to be taking
    advantage of that asymmetric key technology.


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