Re: Microsoft view & support in VC++

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From: Alexander Grigoriev (alegr_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 12/23/04 

Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:30:25 -0800

Forget C++ or Java. I believe you'll have more buyers for your skills when
you'll learn English at least a little bit.

"sris" <srini.tech@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23kEh%23DO6EHA.128@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Ys What ur saying is very true.
> We hope MS can't do things against c++ developer.
> But some IT industries try to make things favorite to beckon professionals
> from VC#.net, VB.net & ADO. net as compared to VC. even c# as new to the
> industry they become tool for mcirosoft technologies in IT ind.
> And even some/lot IT biggies migrates it's code from c++ to java
> native.[i'm
> not want to tell in specific]
> MS keep on chaging it's technologies from c++,vb,c#... and make it's
> folloewer to be more hectic
> and need to learn seperate grammar for each thing.
>
> But Sun have a clear in their views. What ever they makes they put all
> inside java. And u need not to learn new grammar for each its additions.
> we
> have to follow same thing for core,bean,jsp,.....all most everything.
>
> A microsoft also traditionally followed these things from microsof C ->
> vc++
> 5.0 -> 6.0 ->7.0 .net with mangaged c++. but parallelly vb and newly c#,
> Why they r doing like this,
>
> And even if i want to sell me in IT market, i have only few buyers. As
> compared to the other microsoft technologies sellers. But
> java/mainframe/testers/SAP has almost lot of buyers as we r in
> support/maintanence/testing/ITES IT industry pool, with little development
> IT industry.
>
> The main problem is VC is, it's look to be very big thing for new learners
> as they don't know how sweet it will.
> Microsoft can do one thing, they can make some very simple classes/ide for
> new developers. Ys ms provide dialog based app, but it's no way helpfull
> to
> the mfc<->sdk magics.
>
>
>
> "Alexander Nickolov" <agnickolov@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23W98o5L6EHA.128@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> The problem is with the certification program itself.
>> The certificates are not taken seriously, and some
>> companies even reject candidates based solely on
>> the presense of those credentials. Note I'm speaking
>> from personal experience here - notice the credentials
>> in my signature (which are 5 years old by now...).
>>
>> Another factor is VC itself in the .NET world. Note
>> that MS is everything about .NET these days, and
>> VC/ME is not up to par with the rest of the development
>> languages. As a result, few C++ programmers
>> consider it anything more than a toy platform, let
>> alone go for certification there. This is supposed
>> to change with VC 8.0 (part of VS 2005), where
>> C++/CLI is supposed to lead the .NET pack. You
>> may expect a certification program in full swing
>> after VS 2005 is released, in an attempt to draw
>> C++ developers towards it. Your statement about
>> MS quietly dropping C++ is very far from the truth.
>>
>> --
>> =====================================
>> Alexander Nickolov
>> Microsoft MVP [VC], MCSD
>> email: agnickolov@mvps.org
>> MVP VC FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/vcfaq
>> =====================================
>> "srVas" <it_srini@gawab.com> wrote in message
>> news:eFWQW6K6EHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi,
>> > We all know VC is very wonderfull & powerfull way to program
> windows.
>> > But i don't know why the microsoft is not planned to further support
>> > VC.
>> > The
>> > thing is microsoft removed vc++ from it's certification (MCAD
>> > "Microsoft
>> > Certified Application Developer" & MCSD "Microsoft Certified Solution
>> > Developer") . They removed VC++ and put C#.net and VB.net in their
>> > certification and not even VC.net.
>> > IS anybody know why? . Or tell me is my statement is wrong or
>> > not?
>> >
>> > Even application developing industriy biggies traditionally using
>> > vc++, as it's very easy to handle everthing in a single domain. And
>> > they
>> > don't want migrate further in to new technologies. But why microsoft is
>> > planned to suffers his follower.
>> >
>> > IS anybody there to help me?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > sris
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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