Re: copymemory basic question

Well, in addition to Karl's spot on profile, I think you care way to much
what other people think. Relax, you'll live longer.


"Sam Hobbs" <samuel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Stoil Marinov" <stoil_marinov.OBVIOUS@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>
>> You comments clearly showed that you did not understand (or pretended to
>> not understand)
>> Tony's statement and went on a tangent asking beligerent questions like
>> this (I quote the whole post):
>
> That is not the whole conversation. The beginning was Tony saying:
>
> ........
> |> If CopyMemory is used properly then there is no character set
> translation
> |> involved at all. It's a generic API for moving amorphous memory, i.e.
> bytes
> |> of data. The API itself doesn't care what the data is, and treats it
> |> literatim. Hence, if any ANSI conversion is being done then it's
> because the
> |> API declaration is wrong.
> ........
>
> To which I replied:
> ........
> |> I think you are saying the same thing that the author is saying except
> with
> |> different words.
> ........
>
> What is so wrong about that? Do you truly consider that to be
> innapropriate or unreasonable? I was not disagreeing with Tony. I was
> implicitly agreeing. You have quoted the remainder of the conversation,
> but you left out the beginning that I have provided above.
>
> Then Tony replied by saying "I hope not Sam. I'm implicitly saying that
> I've used CopyMemory to move strings (and string pointers), and it does
> work.". So Tony decided to disagree with me, as if anything I say is
> wrong. I replied by saying that the author also uses CopyMemory. The
> reason I said that is because "and it does work" implys that I was saying
> that CopyMemory does not work. Did I misunderstand that? Why would Tony
> say "and it does work" other than to imply that I was wrong to say that
> CopyMemory does not work? My point was that CopyMemory does work; it might
> be used improperly for a specific requirement, but the same use could be
> proper for other requirements. Tony also says that CopyMemory does work,
> so we were saying the same thing using different words. That is similar to
> what I said in my original comment.
>
> As for "character set translation", Tony said "Plus there is no character
> set translation involved.". Involved in what? It is totally ambiguous.
> Where did he say "when declared and used properly" or anything that means
> that? Even if he meant what you say he meant, then where is th definition
> of "properly"?
>
> I think that the point of the "Lightning Strings" article (as referred to
> in the original question) is that the author is showing a use of
> CopyMemory that Tony would call "improper" or "wrong" yet the purpose of
> showing it is that it causes the string to be translated. So yes, of
> course, that use of CopyMemory is "wrong" in this context. My point is
> simply that that use of CopyMemory is not wrong if the translation is not
> wrong.
>
> In these newsgroups, I seldom use terms as extreme as "beligerent" and I
> do not consider "winner or looser" to be relevant. Instead of saying
> things such as childish or immature, I say unproductive, unprofessional or
> foolish.
>
> I truly believe that my initial comment to Tony was totally reasonable. I
> think Tony's response was unreasonable. If I made a mistake, then perhaps
> it was that I tried to get Tony to be more agreeable.
>
>


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