Re: Was going to.........
- From: "mayayana" <mayaXXyana@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:18:27 -0400
Interesting post, but not what was being
discussed or asked. The question
was about MS Office, not Windows itself.
You claimed VB.Net was vastly superior to VB.
Olaf challenged that claim, saying that if it
were true then MS should be writing their software
in .Net. His logic was that MS software is generally
C++/COM, and VB is COM-centric while measuring
up favorably to C++. So if VB.Net is so much better
than VB it follows that it would also be far superior
to C++. You implicitly accepted that point, saying
that MS wasn't writing software in .Net simply because
it would be too much work -- the software was already
in C++ and a rewrite wouldn't be practical.
Do you follow that so far? ... So I pointed out
that MS actually already tried replacing C++ with .Net,
attempting to code all of Windows in .Net, and the
project failed, holding up Vista.
[ And why wouldn't it, of course? .Net is a Java clone.
An OS is generally a low-level interface that provides
a *platform* on top of the hardware, for software to
use. High-level software like Java/.Net is at the other
extreme. It's software built on top of software. ]
I can't spell it out any more clearly. You'll just
have to extrapolate the connection for yourself.
And, for what it's worth, your
spin on the "managed code" quote can be
interpreted in different ways.
Spin? That was a quote from the article. It wasn't
my statement. If you read the article you'll get the
context of the quote.
I don't think you'd run into so much disagreement
about .Net if you didn't take such extreme positions.
How did you get yourself into this corner where you're
vehemently defending and "evangelizing" a simple
tool with religious fervor? Trolling other groups to tell
people they're lost until they switch to your tool of
choice? Does that really make sense? Why does it
matter to you that others prefer to use other tools?
Why should it even matter that some people may
dislike your tool of choice, so long as it works for you?
Do you really have to get everyone's approval before you
can proceed on your own course?
From what I hear there seem to be a lot ot people
who are very pleased with .Net. Probably the same
is true for Java. The difference is that Java people
are not going around claiming that Java is the next
generation of programming, that it's the best tool for
everything, and that all non-Java users are Luddites
who resist "upgrading to newer technologies".
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/developer/the_dirty_little_secret_abo
Because MS Office is made up of literally millions of lines of code and
to
migrate it to .NET just because isn't worth the effort.
Actually it's the other way around. Microsoft *was*
working on rewriting Windows itself in .Net, until
they finally gave up because .Net was so stunningly
slow and bloated that it wasn't feasible.
Quote: "But managed code was going to require machines
that weren't going to be available for five years or more"
ut_longhorn.html
Why they ever thought Windows.Net was a good idea
in the first place is hard to imagine. Why put wrappers
around the platform itself? I don't know. Maybe there was
some kind of reasonable logic. But it didn't fly, in any case.
.
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