Re: Vista makes me crazy, please help.

On 2008-11-20, mayayana <mayaXXyana@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Because it's *convenient*. In addition to the
general rejection of Vista by business, there's also
a mainstream rejection:


You obviously have not worked with systems other then windows - or you
would
realize that your statement is completely absurd. The fact is no other
mainstream platform allows it's users to run as an admin by default. Yet,
Apple is considered the height of usability and convienience...

The model of users having limited permissions has been the norm in *nix
systems for decades (Which Mac OS X is a variant of). The system admin
account, root on a *nix system, is reserved for actual admin duties. It
works
easily and effectivley because software is written with the expectation
that it will not be run with administrative privledges unless needed.


It works in corporate environments where the people
using the PC are working and must have limited access.

The point I'm making is not that you're wrong and
that running in "lackey mode" is stupid. The point is just that
many people do not want to run in lackey mode. They
disagree with you. And guess what? They're free to do
that!

I don't accept the notion that I can't decide what
makes sense for me or others to use simply because
I don't use Linux or Mac. Nevertheless, I have dabbled
a fair amount with Linux. (I was exploring the potentail of
Wine a couple of years ago and always have at least
one Linux install on my multi-boot PC.)

I always run as the "superuser"

Wow... Well, that says it all.

because anything else is too much trouble with accessing
folders, etc. If I were going to switch fulltime to Linux I
might have a limited user account for use when going
online, if it were not too much trouble to switch between
them. But as I said before, I'd prefer to do backup and be
careful rather than deal with the constant hassle of limited
rights on my own PC.


There are no troubles accessing folders - the ones you should be accessing.
Any applications that need root access will usually prompt for a password.
When your doing admin tasks, then you use sudo or su to elevate to root.
There is never a reason to run your entire desktop as root.

I think that this discussion is over. You are definately set in the "Windows"
way - never mind that it has proved an utter failure. I for one, like the
*nix way - and I'm glad that ms is moving down that path.

--
Tom Shelton
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