Re: Delphi? Futureproof re vb!


"Rick Rothstein (MVP - VB)" <rickNOSPAMnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Personally, I didn't like Delphi when I looked at it back in its Version 2 or
3 days. I guess things could have changed, but the underlying Pascal language
didn't "feel right" to me. I haven't looked at it recently, but I thought I
heard they were moving toward a .NET implementation of Delphi, although I'm
guessing they are remaining backward compatible with their old syntax. If
that is the case, I would expect most new books and tutorials would favor the
.NET side of things over the older syntax side. Perhaps someone with current
Delphi experience will be along to address these issues.

Actually Rick, the current "Turbo" versions are Free at CodeGear.

I think the only thing they have different from the Pro and Enterprise versions
is the inability to "add" components to the component pallette (not limiting
you from instantiating one in code mind you).

So go take a Look See..

www.codegear.com/products/turbo



As for me, when the day comes that VB6 is "no more", my preference will be
for a product called REALbasic...

http://www.realsoftware.com/products/realbasic/professional_edition.php

There is a cheaper (less features) Standard version available too. Now,
REALbasic is not completely syntax compatible with VB, so you will still have
a learning curve, but there are a lot of nice (and considerably more)
features built into it compared to VB. Just so you know, though, future
upgrades are subscription based, so there is an on-going cost factor to
consider. There is a trial version available if you want to get a feel for
the product (their tutorial file will give you a decent overview).

Rick


"Suzy" <not@valid> wrote in message news:476020b4$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi all

I bought a book to see if there was some sense in "upgrading" to dot net!
(assuming that newer is better). The book is the Dummies Guide to VB Net
Express. The book so far has about a fifth of the space taken up saying in
effect what a retrograde step vb net is, thought up by programmers thinking
as programmers and not users, with the "help" even worse, and that VB
express is an attempt to "go back". About a twentieth of the book gives new
(to me...) syntax, and the whole of the rest describes programming concepts
which are easy to understand (variables, loops etc) and are in fact exactly
as vb6. Apparently dot net express is an attempt by Microsoft to get back
to the vb6 concept which they should never have left!

I am unwilling to ditch all I have learned about vb6, which I find adequate
for all I want to do, and at the same time it is obviously a waste of time
to get into dot net given that a) it is so uninstinctive and "up-themselves"
(pardon this) programmer-orientated, by which I mean "never mind the user";
let us revel in our own world", and b) who's to say that after making the
effort I won't be marooned again by Microsoft as they change platforms
again?

So, the alternative seems to be Delphi. Could anyone comment? Is the
similarity of Delphi to vb6 enough to allow easy transition? Will Microsoft
try to break the workability of Delphi with future Windoze versions? Given
that Vista is also apparently a disaster, I wonder if I should ditch
Microsoft entirely and go to say Red Hat?




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