Re: VB6 & Active Directory
- From: "Ivan Debono" <ivanmdeb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:56:23 +0200
IIRC, there is a LogonUser API. Can it be used with AD credentials?
Ivan
"Mark Yudkin" <DoNotContactMe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Actually, Q279815 may be a better option, as it's for VB6.
"Tony Proctor" <tony_proctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Actually, Mark, I'd completely missed the fact Ivan was already using the
Active DS library to achieve his first goal.
As for the second, I was going to suggest visiting Q180548, and then I
remembered how complicated it all was :-(
Tony Proctor
"Mark Yudkin" <DoNotContactMe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The OP asked "Is it possible to verify AD passwords for use with 2.",where
"2. User logs in the app using his AD username & password.". I thereforepossible
understood him to want to validate a given username + password pair
inside
of his application, not as wanting to to manipulate AD properties from
within his application.
As of W2K, a DC authenticates domain accounts "using AD information" via
Kerberos. Kerberos does not pass passwords across the network, rather it
uses a "double-encryption technique" (that's very sloppy I know) to
verify
that both parties know the same shared secret, without either party
having
to reveal that secret. That validation produces a ticket granting ticket
that is used for all further authentication purposes, so that
applications
never need to know anything about passwords. This is what makes it
to replace passwords with smartcards, SecurId, biometric devices or themessage
like.
"Tony Proctor" <tony_proctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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There is no such thing as an AD password
It's probably a "word" issue Mark but I would say that term does have
groups,validity. AD is a just hierarchical database of network-wide objects.
As
of
W2K, a domain controller validates domain accounts using AD. Local
accounts
are still validated against the registry-based SAM used pre-W2K.
Mostly,
though (with a few exceptions), user management shouldn't have to
worry
about that
Coming back to Ivan's question: have you looked at using the "Active
DS
Type
Library", e.g. IADsUser, etc. They allows you to browse machines,
andusers in a group, etc., and manage their properties
Tony Proctor
"Mark Yudkin" <DoNotContactMe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Judging from your question you seemed to be very confused between AD
doesn'tsecurity. There is no such thing as an AD password. AD is a
directory.
Security is provided by security providers such as Kerberos.
Provided your application understands Windows security, your user
Theneed to log in. Making a VB6 application understand Windows security
is
normally very easy, in the worst case you have to do a bit of COM+
coding,
but that's a piece of cake in VB6 once you've understood the basics.
thatusual case in which authentication is needed is web clients, but for
LogonUser.case IIS provides all the parts you need as part of ASP / ASP.NET.
If your application needs to log in a user, the API is called
andNormally such applications should run as services; under Windows 2000
canearlier, the API must be run from within the SYSTEM TCB.
An appliation prompting a user for a password should use
CredUIPromptForCredentials or CredUICmdLinePromptForCredentials. You
then call CredUIParseUserName and CredUIConfirmCredentials toany
validate
the
credentials.
There is no easy way to verify a user's password (I believe Vista
added
an
API, but am unsure). You can use the SSPI directly; C code was
provided
in
the April 2001 MSDN Magazine, and it may be possible to convert this
to
VB6 - you're on your own if you choose to follow this route.
"Ivan Debono" <ivanmdeb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi all!!
A VB6 app must integrate with AD, specifically the user management
part.
Basically this is what needs to be done.
1. App displays list of AD users (this should be easy with the
activeds.tlb)
2. User logs in the app using his AD username & password.
Question...
Is it possible to verify AD passwords for use with 2 as I didn't
find
relevant method so far???
Thanks,
Ivan
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