Re: Cystal Enterprise vs. Web Services and IIS?
From: Jason B (jasonb_at_kingschools.com)
Date: 02/20/04
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:28:09 -0800
So you have to have IIS to run CE? Can you use Report Web Services without
CE?
I'm still not getting the dependency between MS technology and CE, if any
exists at all...
Jason
"Ken Onweller (.NET MCSD)" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:%23adJ2C99DHA.2168@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I think you hit the problem on the head. I was running CE9 on a
development
> machine XP Pro, Pentium 4 2GHz CPU with
> 512 MB of RAM.
>
> A dedicated server box would probably offer up much better performance.
>
> In my situation, since I had already coded against the Crystal API, I made
a
> quick decision to stick with it rather than to
> explore all the potential of CE9.
>
> Of course with 10 coming out I'm not sure what we are going to do. I've
> heard that CR10 has two versions with their respective
> API's. One for report viewing and one for report creation + report
viewing.
> The second, I've heard, is very, very expensive.
>
> Of course we could always just download the merge modules, install on our
> development machines and then just code blind... ;)
>
>
> "Bob Holmes" <rholmes@REMOVEmmwec.org> wrote in message
> news:%23%23oa4489DHA.1128@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Ken,
> > Do you have CE installed on a desktop or on a server? We use CE9
> (CE10
> > came in the mail yesterday) and it is installed on a dedicated server
with
> > IIS running. I've never explored performance issues, but our network
> > administrator has never approached me with any concerns. This server is
> > used for a number of other applications and as a file server. I'm sure
if
> > there were problems, he would have talked to me about them so that we
> could
> > resolve them. We have been using Seagate Info / Crystal Enterprise for
a
> > few years, but I would not consider myself an expert with all of its
> > features and abilities.
> >
> > Bob Holmes
> >
> > "Ken Onweller (.NET MCSD)" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
> > message news:#casXy89DHA.1672@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > i installed CE to see how it would work and immediately found quite a
> > > degradation of performance
> > > on my machine. looking at the process list i could see the CE
> introduced
> > > several windows servers.
> > >
> > > perhaps this wasn't the best reason to do this, but I decided to just
> > > uninstall CE and continue working
> > > against the Crystal API to programmatically generate the reports I
> wanted
> > > generated and to take
> > > advantage of one of the viewer's to see them after they were created.
> > >
> > > printing/faxing/emailing a generated report was a bit of work that
would
> > > have been nice to have been
> > > handled by something like CE, but the performance on my machine was a
> big
> > > concern to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jason B" <jasonb@kingschools.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%235BaLwz9DHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > I have been reading around the documentation on how to distribute my
> > > reports
> > > > in a 3 tier remoting application. I am looking for some information
on
> > > when
> > > > to use crystal enterprise or web services (IIS?). I guess first of
all
> > I'm
> > > > confused on whether these two are exactly the same thing or not? For
> > > > example, is Crystal Enterprise dependant on IIS? Apparently a
Crystal
> > > > Enterprise web report will produce an asmx file. I also see that you
> can
> > > > create a web service and consume that on the client, or you can use
> > > crystal
> > > > enterprise exlusively. Does this sound correct? I've worked with CR
> off
> > > and
> > > > on for a while, and I seem to always find disconnected documentation
> on
> > > > their products and technolgies. I need a bigger picture view than
just
> > how
> > > > to link a report to the viewer.. I need to know what options I
really
> > have
> > > > and what is appropriate for what situation.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I have to do some processing on the data before it can be
> > consumed
> > > > by the report and that is another influencing factor maybe as well.
> But
> > > > again in a remoting environment with a pretty small amount of users
> and
> > > > scalability needs relatively low, should I use IIS web services, or
> > > crystal
> > > > services? Or are they the same thing? Or..?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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