Re: Domain vs Wkgrp chngd VB app,now launch's Off.Instl

From: Ken Halter (Ken_Halter_at_Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com)
Date: 02/24/04


Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:22:42 -0800

You've posted this question separately to at least 3 groups. This is called Multiposting
and is *not* a good thing to do. You can crosspost to several groups at once exactly the
same way you'd send mail to more than one person at once. This is called Crossposting and
is great as long as you don't get carried away. If you crosspost, you'll find the answers
easier because they'll show in all groups on your crosspost list... unlike Multiposting
where you'll have to visit each group looking for an answer. Plus, it keeps people from
wasting their time answering your Multiposted question since there's probably already
answers in another group. Crossposting saves time for everyone involved. Multiposting
wastes time for everyone involved.

Read rules 3 and 4 here....
http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking

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Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - http://www.vbsight.com
Please keep it in the groups..
"Jim" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C3849B80-62E6-4658-B3D5-142F10E2A3CD@microsoft.com...
> Background (questions are at the bottom):
> =========================================
> I have a company laptop running Window 2000 Pro. While not really a Visual Basic
programmer, I inherited support and maintenance for a small application. I was making
changes and testing on the laptop at work normally. The laptop is configured for a domain
here at work although I did not have the network cable connected. The actual VB
development is done on a desktop machine, then the program is copied to a memory stick and
installed on the laptop.
>
> I took the laptop home to continue development on my desktop PC there. Since I have a
10bT network at home, I thought I would make my life easier by connecting it, then I could
transfer the install package without using a memory stick or CD. My home network is setup
for a workgroup not a domain as there is no central server. I configured the laptop for
workgroup instead of domain. I set the workgroup name to match the home network. When I
restarted the laptop, the user name and password that I was using was no longer valid. I
somewhat vaguely understand this as the user name was part of the domain not the local
machine. I haven't quite figured out the details but that suffices for now.
>
> I was lucky that the Administrator (local machine I guess) had a default password. I was
able to create new user accounts, etc.
>
> Now I attempted to run the VB application that had been installed before. I was not
re-installing it, just running the previously installed application that had been working.
When I did, it started the Microsoft Office 2000 Installer. The installer prompted that I
was attempting to use a component of Office that was not installed and asked for the CD. I
tried again logged in as Administrator and got the same results. I did not have the CD so
I had to cancel and give up for the night.
>
> When I took the laptop back to work, I could not get it to connect back to the domain,
even though I used the proper domain name, user name and password. I got the message user
name or password is invalid. I had our MIS department get it reconnected to the domain.
MIS renamed the computer. They said they had to rename it because the server already knows
about the old name and will not allow rejoining the network with an identical name. This
did not make sense to me and I had heard of someone else I know that was able to get
re-joined to domain without changing the laptop name.
>
> Anyway, the domain connection was working again and so was the original user name and
password. Interestingly enough, now when I ran the VB application it was able to find the
Office component it was looking for and did NOT start the Office 2000 Installer.
>
> Questions:
> =========================================
> Why did the VB application cause the Office Installer to run?
>
> I realize it wanted to use some component, but why couldn't it be found in a workgroup
configuration?
>
> When an application like Office is installed in a domain configuration, is the machine
essentially split into virtual machines such as local machine and domain machine?
>
> Why couldn't I reconnect to the domain at work after reconfiguring correctly?
>
> Why did MIS have to change the computer name to re-join the domain?
>
> =========================================
> Apologize for the length of this post, but without the whole story, the questions are
not as clear.
>
> Any help is appreciated,
>
> Jim


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