Re: FPSE2002 migration to WSS2.0
From: Mike Walsh (englantilainen_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 07/08/04
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:38:16 +0300
All I can say is that the Admin Guide clearly states that you cannot have
both front-end and back-end (database) of WSS running on Web Edition.
The scenario for Web Edition is that you can have one or many WSS front-ends
installed on Web Edition but the backend (WSS database) in that case needs
to be on a different server.
So I would say based on that is that your problems are being caused by
attempting a non-supported (and as far as I know non-working) set-up.
Mike Walsh, Helsinki, Finland
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"Lawrence Garvin" <onsitechsolutions@news.postalias> wrote in message
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> Several weeks ago I completed the installation of WSS on my Web Edition
> server, but ran into some challenges getting the config database
connected.
> Over the weekend I found the necessary instructions in the Sharepoint
Admin
> guide, and so proceeded to create a WSS website. (Note: To confirm, I do
> have WSS2.0 and MSDE running on Windows Server 2003, Web Edition.)
>
> I did successfully create a WSS website, configure host headers, and that
> website is off to the content development process.
>
> Then, I discovered the Usage Analysis capabilities of WSS, and decided
that
> would be useful to have on my other websites published from this same
> server. So I proceeded to migrate my sites from FPSE2002 to WSS2.0.
>
> A couple of items immediately struck me as odd. One, the statement that
> FPSE2002 and WSS2.0 cannot coexist on the same server. Not only were they
> coexisting on my Web Edition server, but they're also /designed/ to
coexist
> on SBS2003. Go figger.
>
> In accordance with the instructions in the Sharepoint Admin Guide, I did
the
> following:
>
> 1. Backed up my existing web sites using smigrate. There are eight of
them.
>
> 2. Removed FPSE2002 from each of the servers, and then uninstalled
FPSE2002
> from my Web Edition server.
>
> The next steps, install/enable ASP.NET and configure IIS6 to run in worker
> process isolation mode are already accomplished. Again, this goes to the
> coexistence question. I skipped these steps.
>
> Then, the instructions are to use the smigrate tool to restore the backed
up
> website.
>
> And it was at this point that I readily determined that some steps were
> missing from these instructions.
>
> In another part of the Sharepoint Admin Guide, I found some of the missing
> steps. The most significant of these include creating a new top-level site
> without applying a template -- but I had significant difficulties with
this
> step. If I removed the old site from IIS Manager and removed the original
> data folders, then stsadm complains that the virtual server doesn't exist.
> If I put back the virtual server definition with a blank content folder,
> then stsadm complains that the server is not extended.
>
> If I attempted to extend the existing virtual server (with the intention
of
> aborting the selection of a template), the extension completes
successfully,
> but Sharepoint Central Administration refuses to recognize the virtual
site
> as extended, and no further actions can take place -- but the site does
get
> a blank home page -- and effectively obliterates any original content.
> Attempting to do a restore on top of this site, of course, is ineffective
> because the 'blank home page' is not part of the original content.
>
> After some trial and error, this is what I found works (sort of), but I'm
> not sure why. Also, I'd like to compare what I did to what I /should/ have
> done and to what is /written/ (or not, as the case may be), so that for
> future reference, I'll be better prepared.
>
> Here's what I did:
>
> 1. Extend the previously existing virtual server with Sharepoint Central
> Administration. (My guess is this created the necessary references in the
> config database that were, heretofore, nonexistent.)
>
> 2. Then, immediately DELETE the site collection for that virtual server.
> (Which takes away the undesirable 'new' content containing the blank home
> page.)
>
> 3. Delete the virtual server from IIS Manager.
>
> 4. Recreate the virtual server in IIS Manager. At this point, Sharepoint
> Central Administration now recognizes this site as an 'extended' site, but
> it retains the original content in the original web folder structure.
>
> However, this is only about halfway to what I expected to have
accomplished
> as a result of the migration.
>
> I had expected that migrating the sites from a standard web environment
> (with or without FPSE2002) to WSS2.0 would have resulted in the migration
of
> the content into the MSDE databases. Perhaps this would have happened as a
> function of the smigrate restore, which I've not had the need to perform.
>
> Also, I find myself asking about the expected use of non-Sharepoint sites
on
> a multi-site web server, that were created/managed with FPSE, or that are
> intended to continue to be managed via FrontPage. Since FPSE2002 and WSS
> allegedly do not coexist -- how exactly is FrontPage expected to interact
> with a web server running WSS, but containing virtual servers that do not
> contain WSS-type content if FPSE2002 cannot remain?
>
> Also, unfortunately, the Usage Analysis does not work for these sites, so
it
> seems I've done this for naught.
> Does anybody have any ideas/thoughts on why the Usage Analysis isn't
> working? Are my sites actually extended as SCA reports, or is something
> being misreported between the config database and SCA?
>
> Perhaps once I understand the whole process, it'll all make better sense.
>
> Thanks in advance to anybody who can enlighten me.
>
>
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