Re: Object Rexx to become Open Source
From: Gerry Hickman (gerry666uk_at_yahoo.co.uk)
Date: 10/13/04
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:40:04 +0100
Hi Lee,
> Sorry you got turned off by the web page's press releases, but that is
> the purpose of the page ??
It depends on what the page is trying to achieve? I'm looking at it in
the context of someone from the WSH newsgroup, I need to know how to get
it installed on 500+ machines and what it can do - I didn't feel the
page addressed this.
> As far as the RexxLA giving its members a
> means to pay dues via PayPal, I don't see a problem with that.
Nothing wrong at all, it's just that when I visit the WSH home page, or
the Perl home page, there's no mention of money. In my world, the more
"open source" and the more "free" something is, the better it is (e.g.
PERL). Seeing "paypal" in big letters made me assume it's not free.
>>1. Is it built into Windows
>
> Nope, but neither is a "decent" newsgroup reader
I agree! I'm actually using Mozilla.
>>2. Is it free
>
> It will be
Cool!
> I think if you did take the time to read the documentation you'd
> probably be pleasantly surprised.
I'd love to, but I coudln't find it??
> Yes, it integrates well with IIS.
> As far as Apache, I'm sure you're familiar with Mod_Perl, well how
> about Mod_Rexx?
OK.
> Yes, VBScript is an "abortion", but I'm prejudiced :-) I think a lot
> of professionals probably use VBScript for those "one-shot" programs
> or small utilities that no-one wants to take the time to write AND
> compile in VB. Object Rexx can be used either way - if you want to
> tokenize you code - fine - if not, don't.
I didn't make myself very clear; when I say VBScript, I mean VB and
VB.NET too. They are all joke languages in my book, strictly for first
year students.
>>almost certainly need to be installed, and who's going to install some
>>oddball language onto 500+ workstations
> "oddball language"? Rexx has been around longer than Microsoft.
I know, but it's not exactly C or PERL is it? To 99% of the population
it's an "oddball" language:)
Of course the rexx.org site may change all that....
>>I can't do it, I basically have one floppy with scripts which I carry
>>around and can "just run" as and when needed. I can't arrive at
>>corporation X and say "do you have rexx installed?".
>
> In such a case, then VBScript is probably your best bet.
I currently use JScript for WSH, WMI, HTA and web server scripting, plus
the W3C DOM compliant version of JScript for cross-browser client
scripting. I refuse to have anything to do with VBScript or VB anything
else. C# is basically a rip-off of JScript, and is already the choice of
professionals using .NET - check out all the operator overloading if you
don't believe me.
For server side web, .NET is hard to beat and makes PHP look very silly,
but on the client, .NET is already a mess, and now Microsoft are trying
to break HTAs and DHTML in time for Longhorn. This is all a step
backwards. Maybe rexx is the future?
> BTW: There's
> this new thingy called a CD that is much more reliable and
> PROFESSIONAL than a floppy.
Yes, funnily enough I actually transferred everything to CD just last
week. I also have some USB memory sticks, but I find CDs better for
being able to boot into elaborate diagnostics tools and the like.
> Yes Perl is a good language, but if you want to talk cross-platform,
> then do a bit of research first - Rexx wrote the book on
> cross-platform.
I didn't mean to imply it wasn't cross-platform, but PERL takes every
detail into account (e.g. file systems, databases, web servers, COM
interop and so on). Maybe rexx does this too...
-- Gerry Hickman (London UK)
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