Re: Object Rexx to become Open Source
From: Lee Peedin (lee_at_DONOTSPAMMEsafedatausa.com)
Date: 10/13/04
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:01:30 -0400
Gerry,
You make some good points - many of which I have no way of answering
at this time. But I will try to expond some some points. BTW: The
news was "leaked" yesterday, therefore, it was advantageous to get
something on the webpage, even if there were no details.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:19:54 +0100, Gerry Hickman
<gerry666uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi Lee,
>
>I had a look at rexxla.org and was put off by too many press releases
>and the word "paypal".
Sorry you got turned off by the web page's press releases, but that is
the purpose of the page ?? As far as the RexxLA giving its members a
means to pay dues via PayPal, I don't see a problem with that. Had
you rather mail a check or send CC info via email? BTW: You will not
be required to be a member of the RexxLA to obtain the Open Source
Object Rexx.
> As someone using WSH I need to know very quickly
>things like
>
>1. Is it built into Windows
Nope, but neither is a "decent" newsgroup reader
>2. Is it free
It will be
>
>Since this is the WSH group, I need to know how well it will handle
>things like byte arrays returned from COM objects, and does it integrate
>well with IIS and Apache for dynamic web pages? Microsoft's pages jump
>straight into tree views of the SDKs with the object model, properties
>and methods. I could not find that on the site. I don't have time to
>download documentation, I need it right there in W3C compliant HTML.
>
I think if you did take the time to read the documentation you'd
probably be pleasantly surprised. Yes, it integrates well with IIS.
As far as Apache, I'm sure you're familiar with Mod_Perl, well how
about Mod_Rexx?
>VBScript is an abortion of a proprietary language, and it's popularity
>is indicitive of Microsoft's position in the enterprise market; i.e. it
>is popular with students and "power users", but cannot be taken
>seriously by professionals. See if anyone can guess what the 'B' in VB
>stands for, and see if anyone knows what the B in 'BASIC' stands for?
>
Yes, VBScript is an "abortion", but I'm prejudiced :-) I think a lot
of professionals probably use VBScript for those "one-shot" programs
or small utilities that no-one wants to take the time to write AND
compile in VB. Object Rexx can be used either way - if you want to
tokenize you code - fine - if not, don't.
>To date there are two built-in languages; VBScript and JScript, both of
>which can also be used for web scripting. Any other language would
>almost certainly need to be installed, and who's going to install some
>oddball language onto 500+ workstations and risk falling away from "the
>norm" when they look at aquiring staff who can maintian what they've
>built? Every time you build a new workstation, oops I fotgot to put that
>special language on there and now all my deployment scripts broke.
>
"oddball language"? Rexx has been around longer than Microsoft.
>I can't do it, I basically have one floppy with scripts which I carry
>around and can "just run" as and when needed. I can't arrive at
>corporation X and say "do you have rexx installed?".
In such a case, then VBScript is probably your best bet. BTW: There's
this new thingy called a CD that is much more reliable and
PROFESSIONAL than a floppy.
> If I was going to
>install an additional language, I'd tend to choose PERL in the first
>instance as it's cross-platform, open standard, integrates with web
>servers and is extremely well supported by CPAN.
>
Yes Perl is a good language, but if you want to talk cross-platform,
then do a bit of research first - Rexx wrote the book on
cross-platform.
>If rexx is going to become the language of choice for WSH and web
>scripting we need much better info on the front page of the site; we
>need to see how it's better than PERL, and side by side examples with
>VBScript and JScript explaining what it can do that they can't.
>
I never implied that it would be the language of choice - just an
alternative. And without going into any details, may I make this
statement: "If you eat pork, then there's an 80% chance that something
about that pig was reported through a Rexx program - either on the web
or via telephony." And if you use an ATM machine, then you're
probably contaminating your Microsoft hands - most of them still
communite with OS/2 systems (with which Object Rexx does come
installed).
You made some valid points, and as soon as Object Rexx becomes Open
Source, you will probably see a lot of examples posted here. I
refrain from posting many now, simply because in the past, you had to
purchase the product.
Lee
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