Re: get ip

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Randy Webb" <HikksNotAtHome@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Philippe l. Balmanno wrote:
| > "Randy Webb" <HikksNotAtHome@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:ft6dnc6UNfv7ltLfRVn-pQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | Philippe l. Balmanno wrote:
| > | > So you read it.
|
| Please learn to quote and interleave your replies. It makes reading
a
| lot simpler.
|
| >
| > Randy said: *"So, you agree with me?"*
| > No - not really, a cursory inquiry that produces a valid IP is of
some
| > value (What the intent of that is - is another question).
|
| The key word in your statement is "valid IP" address. Any IP Address
can
| be "valid" but it does not make it worthwhile or even reliable. I
have a
| home network that has 5 PC's hooked to it. If any one of those 5
connect
| to a website, you get the IP Address of the Router, not of the PC.
|
| > Those that are not valid or are of proxies can be discarded based
on
| > the purpose of the inquiry.
|
| And how do you propose to determine whether its a proxy or not?
|
| > Granted as the article said, the result this is not 100%
guaranteed.
|
| Precisely my point.
|
| > The OP never suggest what his purpose/intent was for acquiring IPs
| > from hits to his website.
| > As his original post mentioned nothing about security:
| > "Hi, how can I know the ip from the pc who is visiting mi page
| > Thanks"
| > I can't figure why you assumed it did.
|
| I didn't. You brought a security issue into this discussion.
|
| > "But I fail to see how an IP address has *any* bearing on
security
| > as it doesn't unless you control both ends of the connection."
| > As far as your assumption that *"I gave a correct answer." *, you
gave
| > an answer.
| > Your assumption *"Perhaps it is you that has an ulterior motive in
| > trying to convince someone they can do something that they can't
| > reliably do?"*.
| > I believe that the correct answer for this situation is determined
by
| > the OP.
|
| You are welcome to your beliefs. But to try to convince someone that
an
| IP Address is any good to them is giving bad advice. And that is on
top
| of the fact that most servers log the IP Address to begin with so it
| makes determining it on the server once again ludicrous. The one
| exception to that would be sites like www.ipchicken.com that serve
no
| purpose other than to tell you your IP Address.
|
| > Further, you should allow for other options and opinions.
|
| I have no problem with other opinions. When those opinions have
flaws in
| them, then it is *my* opinion that someone (me or otherwise) that
has
| knowledge that the opinion has flaws then it should be pointed out.
Even
| if for no other reason than the archives.
|
|
| > Seeing the OP's question from a business perspective, I would
assume
| > if the hits are from businesses with static IPs a culmination of
such
| > IPs would be a valuable tool for future business direct mailing.
On
| > the negative side, I suspect future spam is possible.
|
| Now you are connecting IP Addresses to email, and they are *totally*
| irrelevant to one another. They are not even remotely related.
|
| --
| Randy
| comp.lang.javascript FAQ - http://jibbering.com/faq & newsgroup
weekly

Three things are evident:
1) You didn't read my posts because I never mentioned security.
2) You didn't read the short article in the link or we wouldn't have
had this exchange and would have known how to identify a proxy from
the article.
3) You're a home user with out the ability to conceive why even
getting your router IP from the ISP side still identifies you.


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