Re: Installing IIS


"Sirocco" <NauticusLX@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You state "but new computers DO COME WITH IT on a separate restore
drive or in a designated folder on the main drive OR FOR A SMALL FEE ($5
OR
$10) YOU CAN REQUEST THE PHYSICAL CD/DVD BE MAILED TO YOU. You bought
your computer at a used PC store, not from the OEM."

I have discovered, through recent research, this is is not true, although
it may have been in the past. You are out of date, past your prime. Out
to pasture.

Your "research" is wrong - - plain and simple. This is now the second time
you've cited some kind of "research" being completed and now profess to know
definitively all about something. You haven't said what your "research" is
in any of these cases, but you need to look elsewhere and spend more time
doing it because your "research" is leading you astray from the facts.

Since you haven't bought a PC from an OEM in the recent past and I do it
approximately every 6 months, we again have a situation where you have no
experience in the matter, yet want to claim an understanding of the
situation. You are wrong about this, plain and simple. Simply call Dell,
HP, Gateway or Sony and ask them if the full operating system files are
available with the purchase of a new PC. If you really did understand the
difference between Microsoft's role as the software developer and the PC
vendors as the OEM's and how what they put on the hard drive is not
Microsoft's doing, you'd realize how bizarre your claims have been.

Furthermore, it's amazing how insulting your posts are. You say NOTHING
to assist in the matter. Thanks for nothing.

Really?! Did I not give you two addresses where you could still find brand
new copies of XP Pro. available for retail sale (despite your absolute claim
that it can't be bought anywhere for any price)? Did I not solve your
desperate cries for help about SP2, by telling you that all you have to do
is use Windows Update and you can get it FREE anytime you like?

Did I not explain the difference between installing software and configuring
software and, at least, getting you to think about the fact that these two
terms are more than a fine distinction when it comes to IIS?

This is all you need to solve your problems, yet you continued to argue with
me about something you admit you have no knowledge about!

You have done nothing but agued when I've provided information about how
software is sold and how you can solve your problem. You've used your own
personal annecdotal evidence as definitive "factual" proof of your incorrect
points.

The fact is that you really don't know squat about IT and just want to
complain, rather than take some initiative to "learn" something new.

There's nothing wrong with not knowing about something, but to be combative
and throw completely bogus information at someone who is trying to help you
just tells me that you are stupid. Why else would someone act so
irrationally?

Good luck in your new field - you ARE going to need it!






"Scott M." <smar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Sirocco" <NauticusLX@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Installing vs configuring? Wow, that's a fine distinction.

No it's not at all. Since you have zero experience with IIS, you can't
possilby claim to understand anything about it. Installing a piece of
software is a matter of copying the files to the target hard drive and
making the appropriate registry entries so that the operating system can
execute the software properly. This is a simple matter to do with IIS.

Configuring IIS pertains to how you would like to configure IIS to
operate with regard to a particular web site you are hosting on IIS.
Some sites need integrated security, some don't. Some will use
Microsoft's ASP .NET technology, some won't. Some will want to have the
default documents modified, others will be fine with the defaults.
Changing site configuration options is what is meant by configuring IIS
and that is very much different from simply installing the software.

At work I just tried the same install (via the add/remove components
wizard)and got a "please insert XP Pro CD-ROM". So, same thing as at
home. And, naturally, no disc. Small company, boss doesn't keep track
of discs. The point is, IIS is obviously not "built-in", as claimed by
Microsoft. The point is, to say that it is "built-in" isn't just 10%
inaccurate, or 90% inaccurate, it's 100% inaccurate. It's a big lie!
I'm not overreacting.

You are overreacting. The fact is that the component is an optional part
of the Windows XP Pro. operating system. Because most users don't need
it, it is not installed onto your hard drive by default (having it
installed requires additional services to be running on your machine
which affect security and performance). This coupled with the fact that
most users don't need it, Microsoft correctly chooses for this not to be
installed by default).

So, the software IS AVAILABLE on your disk or in the location where your
installation files are. The fact that you don't have a disk or the
installation files has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Microsoft. An your
argument that this is decieving is just ridiculous and tells me that you
are not familiar at all with how software sales work.

Furthermore, these discs aren't available retail.

That's incorrect and I've already provided you with links to where you
can still purchase them.

Furthermore, the book I'm using to learn SQL Server 2005 is copyrighted
Jan 2006, so it's not like the instructional material is out of date.

What does your book have to do with software being out of date?

And, furthemore, the new trend is to NOT include operating system discs
with the purchase of either new laptops or desktops.

Gee, I thought that's what I said! The software may not be physically
present on a CD/DVD, but new computers DO COME WITH IT on a separate
restore drive or in a designated folder on the main drive OR FOR A SMALL
FEE ($5 OR $10) YOU CAN REQUEST THE PHYSICAL CD/DVD BE MAILED TO YOU.
You bought your computer at a used PC store, not from the OEM.

Granted I was able to install IIS on a Vista box at Best Buy, while a
clerk stood by, having heard my story, but a lot of good this does me,
since all the instructional material I have, and am thoroughly immersed
in, is designed for XP Pro, not Vista. So even buying a new computer
will not solve this problem.

And again, I'll refer you to my other posts, where I've shown you how you
can purchase XP Pro.

And what's interesting is that, rather than offer a work-around, you
continue to insist how easy something is that, according not just to me
but to all available literature, CLEARLY ISN'T! This isn't an
observation, conclusion, or assumption. It's a documented fact. A fact
that is, I've learned, well known.

No it's not a fact:

1. You have not seen ALL available literature.
2. You have mis-understood what you have read and confused install with
configure.
3. You haven't even done an installation of IIS on XP, so you are not
qualified to make a judgement.


Also, I checked with my 4 siblings, all of whom have computers running
XP - none have the CD's.

So, your four syblings are just as stupid as you are?

If you have the CD's, please mail them to me, and I will mail them back.
Let me know so I can send you my mailing address.

Shut your mouth and read my posts. I've given you the answers you seek,
yet you continue to complain.

You are a moron and should probably forget about learining anything
having to do with computers since you can't even understand such simple
concepts of having a source disk and the difference between install and
configure.






"Scott M." <s-mar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Clearly, you don't know what you are talking about. There is a world
of
difference between installing IIS and configuring IIS. Installing IIS
requires that you simply choose the features of the component you want
(the
default settings are fine for most circumstances) and that's it - it
takes
less than 10 minutes and you don't do anything during that process.

You continue to complain about a procedure that you haven't even done
and
have no personal experience with. Don't you agree that it makes no
sense to
argue a point you have very little knowledge of and zero experience
with?

I don't know why you are being so argumentative about this. You have
no
knowledge of this and I do, yet you are disputing me based on the
mis-understanding of a process you have no experience with - I don't
understand that.


Please read my replies to your other post and you'll see that you are
making a huge issue out of something that is a no-brainer.









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