Re: MSAS 2gb/3gb limit...



Dave,

Thanks for your response...

I'm sure we're saying the same thing but I just want to clarify, only
because I'm trying to ensure that what I believe to be true is really true.
I'll start off with the definitions that I know:

Private Bytes = Virtural Memory space, physical or (physical + pagefile),
reserved for the given process

Virtual Bytes = Physical Memory or (physical + pagefile)

Working Set = Recently accessed pages in Virtual memory (physical or
(physical + pagefile))

Now my question/clarification… You said that the memory an application can
address is “working set plus page file usage”. My confusion comes from that
I think of Working Set to be the above definition. So I would say that the
total memory MSAS can address, depending if /3GB or /USERVA are used, is
2-3gb Virtual Memory. Am I correct to assume that?

Again, I apologize if I’m splitting hairs… It’s just that some of our
systems require that level of tuning and I just want a reality check.

Thanks…




"Dave Wickert [MSFT]" wrote:

> In operating system terms is it "virtual address space". So you are right,
> it is really working set plus page file usage.
>
> In practical terms, it also relates to recommended physical memory used by
> AS.
> This is because Windows as an operating system doesn't really like to page.
> It has the provision but you won't get peak throughput from the system if it
> does a lot of paging.
> --
> Dave Wickert [MSFT]
> dwickert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Program Manager
> BI Systems Team
> SQL BI Product Unit (Analysis Services)
> --
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>
>
> "BATMAN" <BATMAN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:22646394-2268-426B-A36E-FCD55C8EB372@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > To be more specific. What I'm asking is if the MSAS 2/3gb limit (3gb with
> > the /3gb switch in the boot.ini) is related to only physical memory or
> > total
> > virtual memory. Virtual being (physical + pagefile). For example, if
> > MSAS
> > consumed 1.5 physical and .5 paging file, would MSAS be at it's max?
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> >
> > "Darren Gosbell" wrote:
> >
> >> The 2/3 Gb limit (depending on how your boot.ini file is configured)
> >> affects the total addressable memory space. So that probably be what you
> >> mean when you say virtual memory.
> >>
> >> That is, if you have a 32bit box with more than 3Gb of physical RAM AS2K
> >> can still only address (use) a maximum of 3Gb.
> >>
> >> The only way to get over this limit is to use a 64bit operating system.
> >>
> >> The other thing to note on this is that for the dimension cache, AS2k
> >> can launch a separate process called VLDM (very-large-dimension-manager)
> >> that can give you an addition 2Gb of memory for large dimensions at the
> >> cost of some performance for inter-process communication.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> Darren Gosbell [MCSD]
> >> <dgosbell_at_yahoo_dot_com>
> >> Blog: http://www.geekswithblogs.net/darrengosbell
> >>
> >> In article <E1A4F4BA-7843-46DC-98B1-A53ABDF6EA6D@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> >> BATMAN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
> >> > Is the 2gb/3gb limit physical memory or virtual memory?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
.



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