Re: DTS packages in SQL 2000 slow to open

From: Allan Mitchell (allan_at_no-spam.sqldts.com)
Date: 02/03/05


Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:06:28 +0000

If they were corrupted you would not see the packages anywhere.

You see the packages fine they just take a long time.

Are there many versions of the package in MSDB?

What if you save this package to another server and opened?

Now try to open this package on the now remote server which was
previously the local server

This way if it opens quickly you can say

The package is fine
Opens quickly locally on any server
The only difference is the network in between.

"softengine" <softengine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:softengine@discussions.microsoft.com:
> Here is on other clue. The msdb.sysdtspackages takes forever, I mean at
> least
> a minute to open from a remote Enterprise Manager, but opens quickly on
> the
> local EM. Also all the msdb tables open up quickly in the remote EM.
>
> Is it possible that some of the MSDB tables were corrupted when I used
> DTBackup2000 to copy over the DTS packages?
>
> Is there a way to refresh/repair the MSDB database?
>
>
>
> "Allan Mitchell" wrote:
>
> > It is certainly looking that way.
> >
> > Network protocols between the boxes?
> >
> > Switch problems/slow down?
> >
> >
> > "softengine" <softengine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:softengine@discussions.microsoft.com:
> > > These are mostly ETL packages w/mostly data transformation tasks. The
> > > more
> > >
> > > complex packages do seem to take longer but the simple ones still
> > > take
> > > twice
> > > has long to open as they used.
> > >
> > > More importantly. the packages open at the normal time through the
> > > enterprise manager on the the local server. This is only an issue on
> > > remote
> > > EM clients.
> > > When I try to open up a large table through a remote EM, it opens up
> > > very
> > >
> > > fast.
> > >
> > > We are using SP3 8.00.760, and actually it is a Windows 2000
> > > standard
> > > edition not Windows 2003.
> > >
> > > Is it possible this could be a network problem?
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > > "Allan Mitchell" wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK
> > > >
> > > > Can you tell me what is in the package?
> > > >
> > > > All packages do this or packages of complexity only?
> > > >
> > > > SP level on SQL Server, MDAC?
> > > >
> > > > Anything in the Event Log?
> > > >
> > > > "softengine" <softengine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > > message
> > > > news:softengine@discussions.microsoft.com:
> > > > > Well at first I thought it was how we transferred the packages
> > > > > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > old
> > > > > SQL Server to the new and faster SQL Server. We used a free
> > > > > program
> > > > > called
> > > > >
> > > > > DTSBackup 2000. But then I created a test package directly on the
> > > > > new
> > > > > SQL
> > > > >
> > > > > server and I get the same problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I take a package and try to do a Save As to either a
> > > > > Structured
> > > > > Storage
> > > > > File or metadeta, it takes a long time to save and just as long
> > > > > to
> > > > > open.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Allan Mitchell" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What happens if you save the package to a structured storage
> > > > > > file
> > > > > > and do
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it from there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "softengine" <softengine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > > > > message
> > > > > > news:softengine@discussions.microsoft.com:
> > > > > > > We have several instances of SQL Server 2000(sp3) on a
> > > > > > > Windows
> > > > > > > 2003
> > > > > > > development box. (3gigs ram, dual P4 2.8ghz xeons).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are experiencing a problem where DTS packages are taking
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > unusually
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > long time to open. This only occurs when using EM on other
> > > > > > > clients
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the actual local server. I have tried turning on CACHE but
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > seem
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > work. If you have any ideas or could at least explain how or
> > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > slow
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > please send info this way. Incidentally, small and simple
> > > > > > > packages
> > > > > > > open up
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > much quicker than the large complex ones.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I realize complex/large DTS packages will take longer to
> > > > > > > open
> > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > metadeta is being collected when a package is open, but
> > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > packages
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > taking twice as long to open than they did when they were on
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > slower
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sql server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >



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