Re: sql 2005 cluster setup questions

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Listen to Geoff, always listen to Geoff. No matter what I ever say, listen to Geoff! And no I am not kidding, he is a God among men!

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier
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"Li" <Li@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:48D3AC04-1297-4D98-ABF8-3888E50AFCCB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks again, Rodney. One more question, I don't need to do anything after
installing SSIS on 2nd node, right? Since I don't want them to be configured
as cluster resource?



"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:

Install the workstation stuff too!!

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
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"Li" <Li@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:E3D34BB8-0A99-4FF4-AEDD-3CDEB725BC8F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thanks, Rodney. I'll install SSIS on 2nd node. How about work > station
> component? I did not install it on the 2nd node in another cluster
> environment and don't plan to do it for this one either. will that be
> bad?
>
> "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Every node of a cluster should be alike in every way.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rodney R. Fournier
>>
>> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
>> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
>> http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
>> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
>> ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
>>
>>
>> "Li" <Li@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:402FF650-45D5-4D0D-89F8-48ABF1459A77@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >I installed SSIS on Active node of SQL Server 2005 Std, >> >Active/Passive
>> > Cluster. Do I need to install it on Passive node too if I don't >> > need
>> > SSIS
>> > to
>> > be configures as a cluster resource? What will be the disadvantages
>> > for
>> > not
>> > having SSIS on 2nd node?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The usual "It depends" answer applies.
>> >>
>> >> I have been putting SSIS in a separate resource group, but only on
>> >> single-instance clusters. I haven't experimented with clustering >> >> SSIS
>> >> for
>> >> multiple instances. I suggest unclustered for this many nodes, >> >> that
>> >> way,
>> >> there is always a local copy for each instance to use. If you only
>> >> use
>> >> SSIS
>> >> on one instance, then I would cluster around that instance.
>> >>
>> >> -- >> >> Geoff N. Hiten
>> >> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
>> >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Ellie" <Ellie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:F87915F6-4B88-44D8-92CB-2758872CC0B9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Thanks so much for valuable information.
>> >> >
>> >> > what will be the best for consolidated sql envitonment on
>> >> > active/active
>> >> > cluster with 4 instances
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. to install it SSIS on all nodes to leave it unclustered
>> >> > 2. to configure SSIS in all sql resource groups (dont know if >> >> > that
>> >> > possible
>> >> > at all)
>> >> > 3. to cluster SSIS in different cluster group
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> By default, SSIS only does a local install. You can install it >> >> >> on
>> >> >> each
>> >> >> node
>> >> >> and cluster it "by hand" afterwards. Here is the article on how >> >> >> to
>> >> >> do
>> >> >> it:
>> >> >> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms345193.aspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The installer should start from the node that currently owns the
>> >> >> disk
>> >> >> resource you wish to use for that particular SQL instance.
>> >> >> Personally, I
>> >> >> prefer to run the installer on each node and install just the
>> >> >> client
>> >> >> tools
>> >> >> and documentation. Those components are not cluster-aware and >> >> >> must
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> installed on each node separately anyway. It is less confusing >> >> >> if
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> get
>> >> >> them out of the way first.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Standard Edition only supports 2-node clusters. It won't work >> >> >> on
>> >> >> clusters
>> >> >> with more than two nodes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- >> >> >> Geoff N. Hiten
>> >> >> Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
>> >> >> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Ellie" <Ellie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1E2D18C0-A138-4823-B68E-C023E7505A1E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> > Im working on sql consolidation project and I am about to >> >> >> > build
>> >> >> > multiinstance
>> >> >> > 2 node cluster.
>> >> >> > If I want Integration services installed should I manually
>> >> >> > install
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > both
>> >> >> > nodes or thats something that will be installed automatically >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > both
>> >> >> > nodes (
>> >> >> > It is crutial to have IS installed)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > i want to 2 instances to live on node1 and 2 more on node 2 (
>> >> >> > i.e.
>> >> >> > active
>> >> >> > active cluster). Should I start sql set up on one node only or >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > run
>> >> >> > setup from home node of each instance?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > last one q - is it possible to build 4-instance cluster
>> >> >> > active-active
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > SQL 2005 Standatrd edition?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>




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