Re: Upgrade 2000 to 2005



Thanks Anthony...I've sent that info off to the customers hardware and O/S
team for their input

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"Anthony Thomas" <ALThomas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I would not due an in-place upgrade; they are dirty and they never end up
optimal.

So, given your hardware restrictions, here is the tact I would take.

Shut down all services and do a BMR backup. Yes, we have had to actually
use one of these for recovery before, and it isn't pretty, but it is
better
than a full reinstall.

Once you have a clean backup of the entire System State, Registry Hives,
and
file system, completely uninstall the SQL 2000 installation. Then install
SS2K5, using the same network addresses, virtual names, and instances.
Before you begin with the SS2K5, you will need to flush your DNS and AD;
otherwise, you will get installation errors.

You will also want to practice an SS2K5 clustered installation, even in a
VM, but the prerequisites are a little more complicated than your typical
SS2K installation. You need to be very familiar with these as I am sure
that the time-factor will be highly critical when it comes to the actual
production installation.

Sincerely,


Anthony Thomas


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"Kevin3NF" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The nodes are about 3 months old. Not sure about the SAN. This place
leases hardware IIRC, so that would not be an issue.

Testing the restore is of course part of the plan :) but I always
appreciate
the reminder...

Still hoping to see if anyone has direct experience with imaging the
nodes
of the cluster and usnig that image as a restore....

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"Edwin vMierlo" <EdwinvMierlo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I agree, I am not a big fan of upgrading clusters either, but I realise
sometimes there is no choice.
Ensure you have a *proven* backup and restore procedure, and backup
prior
to
your upgrade.
(*proven* = actually tested, else you might be in for a disaster)

Is your hardware still under warrantee / support ?
And for how long ?
( it might be time to think of building a new cluster with new
hardware... )



"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have never been a big fan of a cluster upgrade. The rollback plan
basically becomes uninstall, reinstall, reload from backup. As a
safety
measure, I would detach the user databases, upgrade in place, and then
attach. That way, if there is a failure in the upgrade process, you
at
least save the restore step.

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Senior Database Administrator
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




"Kevin3NF" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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New instance requires disk resources. I don't have disk resources
available. Or is 2005 that much different...

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"Zekske" <Zekske@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Never did a cluster upgrade yet but I can tell you that images of
clusternodes work.
What you also can do is install SQL 2005 as a new instance aside
your
SQL2000.
Then you can migrate your database from 2000 to 2005 keeping your
old
databases as rollback and without the need of new hardware

"Kevin3NF" wrote:

Gentlemen, geniuses, either or both....

My client has a multi-instance SQL 2000 SP3 (.818) cluster on
Win2K3.

He wants to upgrade both instances to 2005. Cool.

No extra drives/luns/whatever the proper term is are available in
the
SAN.

Am I stuck with an in place upgrade? I would have preferred to do
a
side by
side and move the databases but the hardware just aint there.

In this situation, what you do from a "rollback" perspective in
case
he
upgrade blows chunks and has to revert? For a standalone, I
assume
imaging
software would work...would a cluster image work just as well?

2005 upgrades are something I just haven't touched yet...:(

Thanks!

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