Re: SQL CE 3 and CF 1.0 support
From: Ginny Caughey [MVP] (ginny.caughey.online_at_wasteworks.com)
Date: 02/14/05
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:58:34 -0500
Strider,
Ok thanks fot the explanation. I guess when you decide you're ready for
CFv2, then you'll move to SqlCe3. I don't see any other way to do it, and
you'd have to change the underlying app if you moved to a 3rd party data
storage solution anyway.
-- Ginny Caughey .Net Compact Framework MVP "Strider" <Strider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EDF202D7-EEBD-49B3-A540-7870E4A93D6B@microsoft.com... > The problem is not the device but the deployment itself. > > We have designed our application so that all data access logic is > abstracted behind Microsoft's Sytem.Data interfaces. All data access > objects are created using factory methods. > > So, there is no real dependency on SQL CE. We could rollout the new engine > using our automated upgrade mechanism and at the same time upgrade the > database file to version 3, without the end user noticing a thing (except > from the engine download and the database upgrade delay). > > Now Microsoft tells me I need to purchase Visual Studio 2005, rebuild my > application on CF 2.0, and install CF 2.0 on all the devices. > > I don't want Microsoft to tell me when to upgrade to VS 2005 or .NET > Framework 2.0. These are decisions that I need to make for myself. What I > need from Microsoft is to provide me with a descent database engine that > doesn't blow > on my user's face every week! > > And I don't want to hear of storage cards being the root of all evil > again. > I know of applications that have been using flat files on storage cards > for > storing data and have never had a single corruption problem for years! > I also know of applications that have been using SQL CE databases in RAM > and > still experience corruption problems. All these are competitive > applications > that I haven't developed myself (in case you think that I am a very bad > developer who doesn't have a clue on how to write data access code :-) ). > > Thanks for listening Ginny! > > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> Strider, >> >> My understanding is that Sql CE 3 *requires* .NetCFv2 for itself. So >> there >> really wouldn't be any way to run it on a device that can't run .NetCFv2. >> >> SQL Mobile (SqlCE3) is certainly a big improvement over SqlCE2, so I >> understand your frustation. What device do you want to target that won't >> be >> capable of running .NetCFv2? >> >> -- >> Ginny Caughey >> ..Net Compact Framework MVP >> >> >> "Strider" <Strider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:B2449FBF-AE19-493D-A8EA-9CD6FC9A1733@microsoft.com... >> > Makes sense! Sql CE 2 was such a "robust" engine that >> > noone should need to upgrade right? >> > >> > Well, If I had any doubts about dropping SQL CE >> > (in hope that version 3 would present a descent database engine) >> > they're all gone now! >> > >> > Does Microsoft consider CF 1.0 applications as legacy ones? >> > Or is it such a great challenge to write a provider for CE 3 on CF 1.0? >> > Is it just another "motive" to port all mobile apps to CF 2? >> > >> > For me, the answer to all these questions is moving to a third party >> > database engine - possibly Sybase Ultralite. >> > >> > (Porting all my apps to Java be the next step???) >> > >> > http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework&mid=f59136de-5c19-42b1-b27f-591a367b0826&sloc=en-us >> > >> > >> > >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: >> > >> >> SQL Mobile (aka SQL 3) requires Compact Framework v2. With .NetCF v1 >> >> you >> >> should use Sql CE 2. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Ginny Caughey >> >> ..Net Compact Framework MVP >> >> >> >> >> >> "Strider" <Strider@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:5B8DB8C7-4812-4EB1-B67B-607DF861406B@microsoft.com... >> >> > Does anybody know anything about SQL CE 3 support for the >> >> > 1.0 version of the Compact Framework? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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