RE: Will package install if software already exists? HELP!

I have sent you a file offline. If this solves the problem then I will post
a shorter verison here so everyone can use it.


"net1994" wrote:

My head hurts after trying to figure the best way to do this. There are
many, many ways to solve this and 99.99999% of them are brutally painful and
time consuming.

If you could send some screen shots, please do. While all of what were
talking about now is fresh in my mind, 12 hours from now it might not be so
crisp. Screenshots=good. I think the part I could use some visuals on is
turning a membership in a AD Security Group to Membership in a machine based
collection.

Send whatever you can to zoutv@xxxxxxxx

Thanks man. I'll let you know how it turns out. Not sure if youll be
available tomorrow in case I had a follow up question? Nonetheless, thanks a
million!!



"Matthew Hudson" wrote:

oh, I understand. There is nothing more frustrating than dealing with
problem when you can't find a good solution.
I hope this will help you. I am sure you have been knocking you head against
that wall thinking "How and I suppose to solve this one?"
I have been there many many many times. Let me know if I need to send you
some screen shots offline to illustrate how I did it in my enviroment.



"net1994" wrote:

I think I get the idea. What I'll do is see if I can get this setup on my
server tomorrow. Thanks matt. Appreciate your help, didn't mean to sound
like I did not.

"Matthew Hudson" wrote:

There is not line switch or any thing. You need to check your settings for
the query. Under the part where it says limit collection. Select the AD
Security Group [Collection] If you don't have a collection then make a
collection based on this group member ship. What this does is create a group
of computer [Group z] Then my query can be used to create another collection
[Needing Visio] that is only looking at those computers. It will pull of the
50 computers in the collection [Group z] only say 25 populate the new
collection [Needing Visio]. Now advertise your visio install to the
collection marked [Needing visio].
If you run HW inventory every week then set your adv to run once a week and
update the collection each week. As the computers install visio they will
remove themselves from the collection. You now have a dynamic collection, no
need to check to see if they have it installed. They will remove when done
so and hw inventory is run.

Does this make better sense?

"net1994" wrote:

Thanks Matt. But what I'm trying to target is those users in AD Security
Group Z who does not have Visio. The collection you wrote below (I think)
will return all machines in the company that do not have Visio. This is a
good start, but I need to install Visio for the members of the AD Group. The
query below returns over a thousand pcs in the company; I just need to
install on 50.

On a side note. I think maybe 20 of the machines already have it. But most
not installed recently via SMS or manually.

Is there another query I could run? Or specify MSI command line switch?
Not sure if a switch exists to skip if already present.

"Matthew Hudson" wrote:

Yes and no. If you deployed it with SMS and the record is not old/deleted
then when you tell it to install the client will post back with "already
sucessfull on x date, not applying adv" But if you didn't install it with
SMS or that data is old/deleted then it will re-install it. You need to
create a new collection to this collection for visio. You have a collection
with computers in it. In a subcollection keyed off your orginal one put this
in there...
-----------------
select
SMS_R_System.ResourceID,SMS_R_System.ResourceType,SMS_R_System.Name,SMS_R_System.SMSUniqueIdentifier,SMS_R_System.ResourceDomainORWorkgroup,SMS_R_System.Client
from SMS_R_System inner join SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM on
SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM.ResourceID = SMS_R_System.ResourceId where
SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM.Name not in (select distinct
SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM.Name from SMS_R_System inner join
SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM on SMS_G_System_COMPUTER_SYSTEM.ResourceID =
SMS_R_System.ResourceId inner join SMS_G_System_ADD_REMOVE_PROGRAMS on
SMS_G_System_ADD_REMOVE_PROGRAMS.ResourceID = SMS_R_System.ResourceId where
SMS_G_System_ADD_REMOVE_PROGRAMS.DisplayName = "Microsoft Office Visio
Professional 2003")

--------------------------------
This will find computers that don't have visio and now do the adv for visio
to this new collection


"net1994" wrote:

Need to deploy Visio 2003 to about 50 people in our company. Have the
package ready to go. Learned quickly that doing this by collection would be
a nightmare for several reasons. Will use their AD Security group to push
out.

Anyway..... Some of the people already have Visio in the dept. I don't want
them to have it install on top of itself and kick the user out, or bog them
down.

Will SMS check to see if it is installed on the target pc, and if so skip
the pc from installing Visio 2003?? Is this automatic, or a MSI command line
setting?

If so, this will save me excruciating time setting up very specific
collections. and deploying to the machines.

HELP!

.

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