Re: What to do next after attached a secondary site on primary sit
- From: "Cathy Moya [MS]" <camoya@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:53:47 -0800
Sorry for the delay - busy week last week.
The advantage of putting sites in a hierarchical relationship is that the
child site passes all of its information up the parent site, allowing you to
report on everything in your organization from the central (top parent)
site. Also, because software distribution flows downward in the hiearchy,
you can distribute all your packages from the central site. If you have
standalone sites, you lose these benefits. The most common reason I would
guess for having standalone sites is security/administrative control. The
parent site admin can do things to the child site and the child site might
not want that. If you set security permissions appropriately, the child site
admin should not be able to do anything to the parent site.
Does that make sense?
--
Cathy Moya, CISSP, MCSE: Security
Technical Writer, Windows Enterprise Management Division User Assistance
Check out the SMS Technical FAQ:
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"Cyber" <Cyber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6A98B011-2518-4959-AB3E-67C7C594FD2D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thanks for your reply, i just have 1 more question. What situation is
> suitable to setup 2 standalone site within a domain?
>
> "Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
>
>> If AsiaHK and AsiaSG are primary sites, that does NOT make them both
>> parent
>> sites. You are a parent site if you have a child. You are a child if you
>> have a parent. Parent/child status does not necessarily have any
>> connection
>> to primary/secondary status EXCEPT for secondary sites. Secondary sites
>> are
>> always child sites. But a primary site can be a parent, a child, both, or
>> neither. If you make AsiaSG a child of AsiaHK, it is a child site. If you
>> do
>> not have a hierarchical relationship between them, then you have two
>> standalone sites. Which is a valid design choice if you know why you are
>> doing it. Typically you would make one site a child to the other so all
>> the
>> information could be collected in the top-most parent site, also called
>> the
>> "central site".
>>
>> Now, if you have one site as a parent to the other, you only need one
>> server
>> locator point. Server locator points can direct clients to any site at or
>> below their level in the hierarchy. It's just part of being a server
>> locator
>> point. They know all of the management points and CAPs in the hierarchy.
>> Think of it kind of like the root DNS for the SMS hierarchy. The server
>> locator point is usually placed at the central site, but you could put it
>> anywhere and it would still know about the management points and CAPs in
>> the
>> hierarchy.
>>
>> If, on the other hand, you are keeping the two sites as independent stand
>> alone sites, let's start by talking about why you are making that design
>> choice. :-)
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> --
>> Cathy Moya, CISSP, MCSE: Security
>> Technical Writer, Windows Enterprise Management Division User Assistance
>>
>> Check out the SMS Technical FAQ:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sms/sms2003/techfaq/default.mspx
>> This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no rights.
>>
>> "Cyber" <Cyber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:88B3DDF6-C788-4919-9CFC-A39DD8C056E1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Sorry for the confunsion. I mean, If I set both AsiaHK and AsiaSG as a
>> > primary site, then, there will be two parent site in my domain. I have
>> > map
>> > the SMS_SLP to the ip address of AsiaHK's SMS server already. Can i map
>> > another SMS_SLP to AsiaSG's SMS server? I am confused if the client at
>> > AsiaSG
>> > site look for the SLP in the WINS server, it will see 2 entry for a
>> > SMS_SLP
>> > but with different address???
>> >
>> > "Cathy Moya [MS]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >> You say you already set AsiaSG as a secondary site, but then you ask
>> >> about
>> >> making an SLP entry for "the other primary site (AsiaSG)". AsiaSG has
>> >> to
>> >> be
>> >> either primary or secondary - can't be both. If it is a secondary, it
>> >> is
>> >> only a child site and no clients can be assigned to it. If it is a
>> >> primary,
>> >> it might be a child or a parent or both. So I'm still confused as to
>> >> what
>> >> you need . .
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cathy Moya, CISSP, MCSE: Security
>> >> Technical Writer, Windows Enterprise Management Division User
>> >> Assistance
>> >>
>> >> Check out the SMS Technical FAQ:
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sms/sms2003/techfaq/default.mspx
>> >> This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no
>> >> rights.
>> >>
>> >> "ck" <abc@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:eQs91Fy2FHA.3880@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Thanks, you already answer my question. I have setthe AsiaSG as a
>> >> > secondary
>> >> > site. Now I control everything at AsiaHK(the primary site). Just
>> >> > want
>> >> > to
>> >> > know that if I set the secondary site as a Chird site, the install
>> >> > procedure
>> >> > is same as primary site? I am not extend the AD feature in the
>> >> > installation.
>> >> > What i do is enable the SLP and add a record SMS_SLP record in WINS.
>> >> > If
>> >> > i
>> >> > already map the SMS_SLP to the primary site AsiaHK. Can i add the
>> >> > other
>> >> > entry to SMS_SLP with different IP for the other primary
>> >> > site(AsiaSG)
>> >> > and
>> >> > make it a chird site?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Cathy Moya [MS]" <camoya@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D
>> >> > :ulvmZUH2FHA.2884@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> Hi again,
>> >> >> You didn't say which site is the parent. I'll assume AsiaHK is the
>> >> >> parent
>> >> >> site and AsiaSG is the child. In that case, the "All Windows XP
>> >> >> System"
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> AsiaSG would contain only XP computers in Asia SG, but in the
>> >> >> parent
>> >> >> site,
>> >> >> that collection would contain all of the XP computers in both
>> >> >> AsiaSG
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> AsiaHK. Because the child site sends everything to the parent, the
>> >> > database
>> >> >> gets bigger as you go up and you get more computers that match. If
>> >> >> you
>> >> > want
>> >> >> to find ONLY the AsiaHK XP computers, you could copy the existing
>> >> >> XP
>> >> >> collection and add a parameter to match for the AsiaHK site code.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you made the other site a secondary site, just make sure you set
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> boundaries. SG and HK should have their own boundaries. Do NOT
>> >> >> overlap
>> >> > them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For the rest, I'm not really sure what you are asking. Try
>> >> >> responding
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> more detail about what you are not seeing.
>> >> >> Good luck!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Cathy Moya, CISSP, MCSE: Security
>> >> >> Technical Writer, Windows Enterprise Management Division User
>> >> >> Assistance
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Check out the SMS Technical FAQ:
>> >> >>
>> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sms/sms2003/techfaq/default.msp
>> >> > x
>> >> >> This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties and confers no
>> >> >> rights.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Cyber" <Cyber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:EA0D5170-0CCA-480D-A57D-43BD96F8AFB2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Now i can see that there're 2 site under Site Hierarchy(AsiaHK
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > AsiaSG).
>> >> >> > Do i need to group computer under "All Window XP System" under
>> >> >> > their
>> >> >> > own
>> >> >> > site? and how? Anything i need to set to make the secondary site
>> >> >> > work?
>> >> > If
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > need to push client / software to this 2 site, what can i do? I
>> >> >> > don't
>> >> > see
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > collection under each site. There is only 1 collection under ste
>> >> >> > database..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > Cyber
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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