Re: Trouble Extending Schema
From: Micah (M_at_m.com)
Date: 05/03/04
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:26:35 -0500
Already done and rechecked exactly what you have listed below. Grasping at
straws here now
"TerryM" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OHZp0PLMEHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> What permissions?
>
> Extending the schema is different than creating the Management container
to
> publish to.
>
> To Extend the Schema on Windows 2000, you just make sure Schema extensions
> are allowed (checkbox)
> Then I always, (not sure if required) log on to the Schema Master Domain
> Controller as a Schema Admin and run the Schema Extend Tool.
>
> Takes like 5 seconds.
>
> You say this part is failing? When you go into Schema Admin Console do
you
> see this:
>
>
> Classes (Common Names)
> MS-SMS-Management-Point
> MS-SMS-Server-Locator-Point
> MS-SMS-Site
> MS-SMS-Roaming-Boundary-Range
>
> Attributes (Common Names)
> MS-SMS-Site-Code
> MS-SMS-Assignment-Site-Code
> MS-SMS-Site-Boundaries
> MS-SMS-Roaming-Boundaries
> MS-SMS-Default-MP
> MS-SMS-Device-Management-Point
> MS-SMS-MP-Name
> MS-SMS-MP-Address
> MS-SMS-Ranged-IP-Low
> MS-SMS-Ranged-IP-High
>
> Either you are not using a Schema Admin Account, or you have not checked
the
> box to enable Schema extensions in Windows 2000.
>
> Terry
>
>
> "Micah" <M@m.com> wrote in message
> news:uNacYHLMEHA.2532@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > See that is the problem, I can't get the schema extended but I beleive
I
> > have the permissions set correctly. I've tried it on the schem master
and
> > no luck, Tried it on each DC and on the sms server and the logs all
> contain
> > the same error codes (in my first post). I think that the permissions
are
> > fine, I've checked and rechecked those. What this appears to be to me
is
> a
> > problem with the directory but the errors returned in the log created
when
> I
> > try to extend the directory are pretty useless and don't give me much to
> go
> > on. I thing everything would be fine if I could get the directory
> > extensions in there.
> >
> > "TerryM" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ODKtb7KMEHA.2584@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Have you looked in the schema to see if it was successfully extended??
> > > Search myitforum.com for a list of exactly what should be in there.
If
> it
> > > hasn't been extended then I would run the utility on the Server that
is
> > the
> > > Schema master using the Schema admin account. Should only take a
couple
> > > seconds. Then go into the Site properties, unselect for it to publish
> to
> > > AD, apply, then recheck and apply.
> > >
> > > If it has been extended then you know it must be a problem with
security
> > and
> > > the management container.
> > > The SMS Account needs to be granted ownership or something like that
to
> > the
> > > systems mgmt container. Use the all tasks>Delegate control option
from
> > the
> > > ADU&C MMC.
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > >
> > > "Micah" <M@m.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O4jOJ$JMEHA.160@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > I understand all that and so far have already done everything you
> > pointed
> > > > out. I really don't think it's an issue with permissions here. I'm
> > using
> > > > an account that has permissions to modify the schema and
modifications
> > are
> > > > enabled.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that the problems are permission related on the SMS
> side.
> > > > What it looks like to me is that the SMS problems are all related to
> the
> > > > failure of the directory extensions. It looks like it's getting to
> the
> > > > directory fine but can't update it because the class and attributes
> are
> > > not
> > > > there.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to find out why it won't let me extend the directory. I
> > > > apparently have rights because I am using a schema admin account and
> am
> > > also
> > > > trying it from the domain controllers as well as the SMS server
> itself.
> > > The
> > > > errors are all the same no matter where I try it but there really
> isn't
> > > any
> > > > usefull info out there for the errors in the log files. I think it
> will
> > > > work if I can get the directory extended, but so far no luck.
> > > >
> > > > "Jason Nelson" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> > > > news:05D04F6B-2F26-442B-9ED6-FAA512A5B254@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Micah,
> > > > > Please review the following snippet I copied here for you to read
> from
> > > > "Active Directory Schema Modification and Publishing for Systems
> > > Management
> > > > Server 2003.doc".
> > > > >
> > > > > "If publishing is enabled on the site properties but the SMS
account
> > > does
> > > > not have sufficient permissions to publish, hierarchy manager and
site
> > > > component manager will generate error 4913: Systems Management
Server
> > > cannot
> > > > create the object in Active Directory. This error persists in the
> status
> > > > messages until permissions to publish have been granted or
publishing
> > has
> > > > been disabled."
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay... so back to my original blog... you need to verify you have
> the
> > > > correct permission when creating the SMS System Management
container.
> > > Since
> > > > you said this was a 2000 AD, did you run Regsvr32 schmmgmt.dll from
a
> > > > command prompt? If not then do this. However, I am assuming you
have
> > > done
> > > > this to allow the schema to be extended with the System Management
> > > > container.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your problem is publishing to this container.
> > > > > When you run ExtADSch the ExtADSch.log will likely contain errors
> > > starting
> > > > off with "Failed to create attribute".
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, we need to go back with the ADSI Edit tool and look
over
> > how
> > > > you have the permissions setup in the System Management container.
> You
> > > said
> > > > that you have given full control to it and to all child objects.
This
> > is
> > > > good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now did you also go into the Advanced Security Settings for System
> > > > Management and check the box "Allow inheritable permissions from the
> > > parent
> > > > to propagate to this object and all child objects. Include these
with
> > > > entries explicitly defined here." Once this is checked and applied,
> go
> > > > ahead and run the ExtADSch tool again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > jason nelson
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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