Re: Advanced Client Installations on Restricted W2K machines

From: Stan White [MS] (stanwh_at_microsoft.com)
Date: 11/17/04


Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:24:15 -0800

If you are looking for the basics:
Add the group policy snap in to MMC then choose default domain policy.
Computer Configuration - Software Settings - Software Installation
Add a new package from the start menu and it will ask for an MSI.

Please be aware of two things:
Don't patch an admin image, it's a really complex maintenance challenge and
you don't want to go there.
To apply updates (client.msp) you will need a local client.msi source on the
client and will need to re-direct the source file resolution to that source.
(Or the original unaltered client.MSI will need to be available on the
original share it was installed from )

We highly recommend using ccmsetup instead but it seems that will not work
well with your plans.

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"Jon Yonke" <JonYonke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:1F31B0A4-FBCB-4960-8EB8-C27B7E47E540@microsoft.com...
> Very helpful posts from both you and Stan.  I like the group policy option 
> as
> this is something I can turn off and on at will.  However, I can't seam to
> find the right "key" in group policies to do this.  I know this isn't the
> right place to ask group policy question, but would you happen to know 
> where
> I need to go?  (We are running W2003 standard server with a Windows 2003
> Active Directory, all workstations are Windows 2000, at least sp3).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon
>
> "JP" wrote:
>
>> Jon,
>>
>> For SMS client deployment you've got 2 issues.  First, how to get it out 
>> to
>> all the clients already deployed.  Second, how to get it out to new 
>> computers
>> going forward.  The easiest way to get it out to existing clients is the 
>> push
>> installation method.  I would suggest that you turn on file/print sharing 
>> for
>> a brief period, maybe a day or two and let SMS push the client out.  Then
>> turn off file/print sharing.  You could do this via group policy.  This 
>> would
>> be the easiest thing by far.
>>
>> The alternative is to get utilize a login script that allows a non-admin
>> user to launch the SMS client installation as an administrative user.  I 
>> just
>> did a similar thing for a client who is deploying XP SP2 via CD.  I used 
>> the
>> AutoIT scripting tool from www.hiddensoft.com.  It is an open source 
>> program
>> and it is really powerful and yet simple to use.  The reason I use this 
>> is
>> that scripts can be created in Notepad and then compiled into an EXE so 
>> users
>> never see the administrative account and password you are using.  If you 
>> use
>> the RunAsSet command you can enter an alternative username and password 
>> under
>> which the SMS client can be installed.
>>
>> If the only reason for disabling file and print sharing is to reduce 
>> clutter
>> in Network Neighborhood, the same thing can be accomplished by modifying 
>> a
>> registry setting.  Here is a link that describes how to do this.  I've
>> implemented it via group policy in the past.
>>
>> http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/58/
>>
>> JP
>>
>>
>> "Jon Yonke" wrote:
>>
>> > I finally figured out why half of my 220 W2KPro client machines have 
>> > not
>> > installed the SMS advanced client, they don't have file and print 
>> > sharing
>> > enabled.
>> >
>> > Here is my dilemma:
>> >
>> > We have group policies setup so only Domain Admins or Computer
>> > Administrators can install software to help us maintain appropriate
>> > licensing.  Also our images have file and print sharing disabled to 
>> > reduce
>> > clutter in Network Neighborhood (although half of our images got out 
>> > with
>> > file and print sharing enabled, which in this case is fortunate). 
>> > Neither of
>> > those restrictions is going to change.
>> >
>> > I can put our domain users in an administrative group on the Domain 
>> > side of
>> > the equation and install the SMS client via login scripts, but I do not 
>> > to
>> > allow my users access to install programs even for a minute, unless I 
>> > can
>> > "supervise" the installation.
>> >
>> > I can't "Push" the SMS client out because there is no administrative 
>> > share
>> > to attach to, and I certainly can't go to each machine and install the 
>> > SMS
>> > client (with any kind of acceptable efficiency that is).
>> >
>> > The question is: How can I install the remainder of my clients without
>> > changing "security" settings or sitting down at each machine?
>> >
>> > Thanks for listening,
>> >
>> > Jon Yonke
>> >
>> >
>> > 


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