Re: WMI Problem - SMS 2003 SP1 + XP SP2

From: Miho Urabe [MS] (mihoura_at_microsoft.com)
Date: 11/15/04 

Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:25:43 -0800

Are you using Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows 2003?
Could you send me the WMI log files on the machine where the SMS Provider is
running and SMS Provider log files that include logging for the repro?

Thanks,
Miho
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>rights.
"Tony Le Lerre" <Tony Le Lerre@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2D30C56E-4C28-44BF-860F-762A7F7303CE@microsoft.com...
>I wondered if I could join in this thread because I believe that we are
> having the exact same issues:
>
> Our existing config was SMS2003 SP1 running its on a Windows 2003 server
> managing 110 desktop PC's all running Windows XP sp1. This was working
> absolutely fine.
>
> We then rolled out 10 new PC's with XP SP2 and the SMS client will not
> install. The installation errors relate to WMI namespaces. When
> investigating
> this further we found that loading any of the WMI tools resulted in access
> denied errors this didn't matter whether the tools were loaded locally on
> a
> XP PC or whether you pointed from a remote machine. If you load the MMC
> tool
> you cannot view any of the other tabs relating to WMI due to the access
> denied error. At first we didn't consider it was down to XP SP2 but after
> a
> while we tried a few tests such as disabling firewall etc. These make no
> difference. However if we roll back to XP SP1 everything works fine and
> the
> SMS client installs and WMI starts reporting again and the various WMI
> tools
> work.
>
> We have an open case with Microsoft about this issue already but the
> symptom
> described by Frank are almost identical to ours
>
>
> "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>
>> Could you try to see if you have a access right to the SMS namespace as I
>> asked below?
>> As you said before you cannot open WMI snap-ins locally on the computer
>> where SMS provider is running, please open the WMI snap-ins from other
>> machines connecting to the computer where the SMS provider is running.
>> Open
>> Property and go to Security page.
>> Click SMS namespace to verify the SMS Admins group has access right or
>> not.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Miho
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> rights.
>>
>> "Frank Röder" <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B20D1B1A-5FC2-40CF-A31D-A69114ED529B@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Miho
>> >
>> > Sorry for repeating myself:
>> >
>> > Conneting to WMI locally I get acces denied, in all cases:
>> > WBEMTEST or WMI Control (I can't ues any panel in WMI control, because
>> > of
>> > access denied "win32:Access Denied")
>> >
>> > No problem with connection through WBEMTEST to other computers from the
>> > this
>> > computer and no problem running SMS admin consol on this computer.
>> >
>> > There is no application problem og no remote problems, only locally WMI
>> > problems.
>> >
>> > Thanks Frank
>> >
>> > "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I would like to ask you one more thing.
>> >>
>> >> Can you open MMC with WMI Control snap-in connecting to the local
>> >> machine?
>> >> If so, please open the property pages and go to Security page.
>> >> Please verify that the SMS name space has the SMS Admins group to
>> >> access.
>> >>
>> >> If you can still access the WMI control snap-in locally, please try to
>> >> connect to the machine from another machine remotely and verify.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Miho
>> >> >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> >>rights.
>> >> "Miho Urabe [MS]" <mihoura@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:OrowwN1xEHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi Frank,
>> >> > You mentioned that it failed when you locally connect to SMS name
>> >> > space
>> >> > with wbemtest. Does it fail to run SMS Admin console locally? The
>> >> > issue
>> >> > (access denied) happns with only wbemtest?
>> >> > Please verify that the logon account or the account you use to run
>> >> > wbemtest/SMS Admin console is included in the SMS Admins group.
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Miho
>> >> >>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> >>>rights.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Frank Röder" <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:A5F07E97-5E4A-4653-B103-93BB024C6E71@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> HI Miho
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have learned that's the only way to connect to the SMS site
>> >> >> through
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Admin. Console, so naturally I'm represented in the local SMS admin
>> >> >> group
>> >> >> :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks Frank
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Are you in SMS Admins group?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>> Miho
>> >> >>> >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
>> >> >>> >>no
>> >> >>> >>rights.
>> >> >>> "Frank Röder" <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >>> message
>> >> >>> news:4D6429AC-328D-4E2E-9FEA-6B13FB732A02@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> > Hi Miho
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I'm Administrator both on the server and on the clients and have
>> >> >>> > always
>> >> >>> > been
>> >> >>> > it.
>> >> >>> > so I suppose that's sufficient rights, when I haven't changed
>> >> >>> > any
>> >> >>> > rights.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > If I try using wbemtest remote connecting to any other
>> >> >>> > server(client)
>> >> >>> > and
>> >> >>> > also the SMS site server, no problem...it's only locally !
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > The error code I get
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Number: 0x8007005
>> >> >>> > Facility: Win32
>> >> >>> > Description : Access is Denied
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > ....and I suppose that why USERENV also have the problem....
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> Hi Frank,
>> >> >>> >> Thank you for the information.
>> >> >>> >> Do you use the exact same user context to connect to WMI
>> >> >>> >> locally
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> remotely?
>> >> >>> >> Does the user context have sufficient right to connect to SMS
>> >> >>> >> namespace?
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Miho
>> >> >>> >> >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> >> >>> >> >>confers
>> >> >>> >> >>no
>> >> >>> >> >>rights
>> >> >>> >> "Frank Röder" <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >>> >> message
>> >> >>> >> news:81D3009B-7967-412D-A1C4-F9562A85C53D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> >I forgot to tell you that I don't have any problem from my
>> >> >>> >> >Windows
>> >> >>> >> >XP
>> >> >>> >> >SP2
>> >> >>> >> > with SP2 connecting through SMS admin. Console to the SMS
>> >> >>> >> > site
>> >> >>> >> > server.
>> >> >>> >> > (I
>> >> >>> >> > have had that problem before)
>> >> >>> >> > The problem is still only locally and concerning the WMI.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > Thanks Frank
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> Hi Frank,
>> >> >>> >> >> I looked at the log file.
>> >> >>> >> >> There are errors in wbemcore.log files that means that
>> >> >>> >> >> "something
>> >> >>> >> >> is
>> >> >>> >> >> trying
>> >> >>> >> >> to use delegation and didn't provide all of the necessary
>> >> >>> >> >> authority
>> >> >>> >> >> information" but there is no information in smsprov.log for
>> >> >>> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> time
>> >> >>> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> error was logged in wbemcore.log.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> I have some questions to verify what you said before.
>> >> >>> >> >> - the problem started happening after you upgraded SMS Site
>> >> >>> >> >> Server
>> >> >>> >> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> Win2003 SP1.
>> >> >>> >> >> Before that connecting SMS Site name space on Win2003
>> >> >>> >> >> from
>> >> >>> >> >> WinXP
>> >> >>> >> >> SP2
>> >> >>> >> >> worked fine.
>> >> >>> >> >> - You ran SMS Admin UI/wbemtest on WinXP SP2 remotely
>> >> >>> >> >> connecting
>> >> >>> >> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> SMS
>> >> >>> >> >> Site
>> >> >>> >> >> Server on Win2003 SP1.
>> >> >>> >> >> - You got errors when you tried to remotely connect to the
>> >> >>> >> >> sms
>> >> >>> >> >> name
>> >> >>> >> >> space
>> >> >>> >> >> (\\siteserver\default\sms\site_xxx) with wbemtest.
>> >> >>> >> >> - You disabled firewall on Win2003 SP1 and you also ran the
>> >> >>> >> >> workaround
>> >> >>> >> >> setting for WinXP SP2.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> If my understanding is wrong or you have more information to
>> >> >>> >> >> add,
>> >> >>> >> >> please
>> >> >>> >> >> let
>> >> >>> >> >> me know.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Can you also run wbemtest from other machines which are not
>> >> >>> >> >> WinXP
>> >> >>> >> >> SP2?
>> >> >>> >> >> Does
>> >> >>> >> >> it work?
>> >> >>> >> >> What options (impersonation level, authentication level) did
>> >> >>> >> >> you
>> >> >>> >> >> set
>> >> >>> >> >> when
>> >> >>> >> >> you run wbemtest?
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>> >> >> Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> >> >>> >> >> >>confers
>> >> >>> >> >> >>no
>> >> >>> >> >> >>rights.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> "Frank Röder" <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >>> >> >> message
>> >> >>> >> >> news:A25129B2-E493-417A-A863-923E7D950DDA@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> > Hi Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > We have the SMS site and SQL server on the same server. I
>> >> >>> >> >> > will
>> >> >>> >> >> > send
>> >> >>> >> >> > you
>> >> >>> >> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> >> > log files incl. the smsprov logs.
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >>> >> >> > Frank
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Hi Frank,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Do you have a SQL server with SMS site server on the same
>> >> >>> >> >> >> machine
>> >> >>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >>> >> >> >> different machine?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> If you have the SQL server installed on the different
>> >> >>> >> >> >> server
>> >> >>> >> >> >> where
>> >> >>> >> >> >> SMS
>> >> >>> >> >> >> site
>> >> >>> >> >> >> server is not installed, the SMS Provider likely to be
>> >> >>> >> >> >> installed on
>> >> >>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >>> >> >> >> machine. Could you check if you can find smsprov.log on
>> >> >>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >>> >> >> >> machine?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> If
>> >> >>> >> >> >> so,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> could you send me the WMI log files on that machine, too?
>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>confers
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>rights.
>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> "Frank Röder" <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> >> >>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> news:3C0BE9E1-F947-4F12-8625-C203A44280F1@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > Hi Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > Sorry for been a little confused, do you u meen the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > logs
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > SMS
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > site
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > Server?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> > "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Hi Frank,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Could you please also send me the WMI log files from
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> machine
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> where
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> SMS
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Provider is installed?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Thank you,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>confers
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>rights.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> "Frank Röder" <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> news:D43CEF88-6D5B-49DB-8A22-4E9DD38B3ACA@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > The WMI logs are from a XP SP2 Client, with a SMS
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > SP1
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > client.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Would u like some SMS log files ?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Frank,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> I looked at the log files you sent me. Did you get
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> those
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> logs
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> from
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> machine where SMS Provider is running?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>warranties,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>confers
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>rights.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> "Miho Urabe [MS]" <mihoura@microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> news:u21DzrdvEHA.720@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi Frank,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes, please send me those log files?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>warranties,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>confers
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>rights.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Frank Röder"
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > news:75B7BAB2-A929-465E-97CC-79ECD1D086BD@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes I can't use the MMC snapin; but in the event
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> log
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> WMI
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> error
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> got is the one from USERENV event 1090. In the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> WBEM\LOG I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> have
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> logs
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> also
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> have lines with interesting stuff. Would U like
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> me
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> send
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> you
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> these
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> logs.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> WBEMCORE.LOG and WMIPROV WMIADAP SETUP etc.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> thanks
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Frank
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Frank Röder" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Sorry no..I'm not able at all to enter any
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> panel
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> at
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> WMI
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> control.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Because
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> of access denied it will not connect.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> And: I'm Administrator and earlier I have tried
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> on
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> other
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> upgraded
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> machines
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> to rebuild wmi repository and sorry...and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> nothing
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> helps.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> If you have a registry key for WMI logging,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> then I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> could
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> try
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> ?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Miho Urabe [MS]" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Could you set WMI logging to verbose and get
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > WMI
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > logs
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > for
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > me?
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Thanks,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Miho
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>warranties,
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>confers
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>no
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>rights.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > "Frank Röder"
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > <FrankRder@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > wrote
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > message
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > news:77E7432D-8154-4F1C-BA78-DE456B314BA5@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > It seems that there is quite at few
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > problems
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > in
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > newgroups
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > regarding
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > WMI
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > problems after updating to XP SP2.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > We also have this problem, when we're
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > testing
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > this
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > upgrade.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > However
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > I
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > think
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > it's more likely af WMI - XP problem, than
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > a
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > SMS - XP
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > problem.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > The problem is that we'll get a access
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > problem
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > WMI
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > og
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > can't
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > connect
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > to WMI at all (WBEMTEST). The USERENV
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > service
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > also
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > have
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > the
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > problem:
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > Even
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > though we don't use (has stopped) firewall
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > and
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > security
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > center.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > If somebody find out anything, we would
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > glad
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > to
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > here
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > about
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > it.
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > regards Frank Röder
>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >
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