Re: SMS 2003 Network Discovery

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From: Darren Brinksneader (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 08/03/04 

Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:29:37 -0700

I have done three other installs of SMS and have never
run into this before. The only difference is that the
other installs were in Windows 2000 or 2003 AD
environments, this is NT 4.0 Domain.

One thing I did notice is that for the devices discovered
via SNMP have the following:

ExportDevice <172.22.2.108 255.255.254.0>
        SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY 8/3/2004 5:21:56 PM
        3760 (0x0EB0)

where it shows the net mask the others don't:

ExportDevice <172.21.4.144> SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY
        8/3/2004 5:21:58 PM 3760 (0x0EB0)

>-----Original Message-----
>We are just logging that it is not in AD. This has
nothing to do with
>processing the DDR. If we find the system that we can
get the IP information
>we will populate the database.
>
>--
>Thanks,
>Jeff Harbaugh [MSFT]
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>
>"Darren Brinksneader"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:b83101c4799a$d9beef70$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>I am not trying to push clients yet. With SNMP
discovery
>> turned on, servers on the local subnet (with snmp
>> installed) are discovered and populated into the
>> appropriate collections. Any system on the local subnet
>> or on remote subnets, without the snmp service
installed
>> are not getting DDR's generated.
>>
>> Here is an example:
>>
>> The first system listed is a server on the same subnet
as
>> the SMS Site Server and has the SNMP service installed:
>>
>> ********** System that get DDR generated *********
>> ExportDevice <172.22.2.98 255.255.254.0>
>> SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY 8/3/2004 4:20:06 PM
>> 2748 (0x0ABC)
>> HMC-HSM-INF is not in any AD Site.
>> SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY 8/3/2004 4:20:06 PM
>> 2748 (0x0ABC)
>> ** DDR creation record **~Filename:
>> D:\SMS\inboxes\ddm.box\6qq1kf5p.DDR~Device:
System~Device
>> info: NetBIOS Name HMC-HSM-INF~Resource Domain OR
>> Workgroup HMC_DOMAIN~Operating System Name and Version
>> Microsoft Windows NT Server 5.0~SNMP Community Name
>> public~IP Addresses 172.22.2.98~IP Subnets
>> 172.22.2.0~Resource Names HMC-HSM-INF~MAC Addresses
>> 00:0B:CD:03:D9:73 SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY 8/3/2004
>> 4:20:06 PM 2748 (0x0ABC)
>> ********** End System that get DDR generated *********
>>
>> Even though is states "HMC-HSM-INF is not in any AD
Site"
>> it still generates a DDR because of the SNMP.
>>
>> The next system is queried by the SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY
>> as you can see it gets info back from the system, but
>> when it tries to export the device to generate a DDR it
>> fails and states "PLANAR-0001743 is not in any AD
Site".
>> So, it never gets populated into a collection.
>>
>>
>> ********** System that doesn't get DDR generated
*********
>> ADM: NtBrowser: Starting to talk to Device PLANAR-
0001743
>> SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY 8/3/2004 4:16:48 PM
>> 2084 (0x0824)
>> ADM: NtBrowser: Device PLANAR-0001743, reported name
>> PLANAR-0001743, reported OS Microsoft Windows NT
>> Workstation version 5.0, machine type information: LAN
>> Manager workstations|LAN Manager servers|Windows NT
>> (either Workstation or Server)|Server that can run the
>> Browser service|All servers SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY
>> 8/3/2004 4:16:48 PM 2084 (0x0824)
>> DC: Device reported by REPLY_SYSTEM_INFORMATION
>> <172.22.8.127> SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY 8/3/2004 4:16:48
>> PM 2084 (0x0824)
>>
>>
>> ExportDevice <172.22.8.127> SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY
>> 8/3/2004 4:19:00 PM 2748 (0x0ABC)
>> PLANAR-0001743 is not in any AD Site.
>> SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY 8/3/2004 4:19:01 PM
>> 2748 (0x0ABC)
>>
>> ********** End System that doesn't get DDR generated
>> *********
>>
>> Since I am in an NT 4.0 domain, I obviously am not in
any
>> AD site.
>>
>> The site server is in "Standard Security" and is
pointed
>> to a WINS server in it's IP properties.
>>
>> Any ideas? If you want a full log, I can send you one,
>> but it is large because I am trying to discover nearly
>> 700 systems.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Please attach more of the log.
>>>What do you mean it is not processing the DDR's? DO you
>> have push enabled?
>>>Are you just trying to discover the machines? Are you
>> collections not
>>>populating?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jeff Harbaugh [MSFT]
>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
>> confers no rights.
>>>
>>>"Darren Brinksneader"
>> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>news:baeb01c47992$433f1410$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>I have a newly installed SMS 2003 Primary Site
intalled
>>>> on Windows 2003 as a member server in a Windows NT
4.0
>>>> Domain (Single Domain).
>>>>
>>>> I can watch the SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY in SMS Trace.
I
>>>> cac see it query systems and get a response.
>>>>
>>>> It gets to "Exporting Systems...." in the log
>>>>
>>>> this is what I see when it tries to create the DDR...
>>>> Sample:
>>>> ExportDevice <172.22.20.126> SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY
>>>> 8/3/2004 3:39:04 PM 2216 (0x08A8)
>>>> 016Y8 is not in any AD Site. SMS_NETWORK_DISCOVERY
>>>> 8/3/2004 3:39:04 PM 2216 (0x08A8)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this happens for every system except for the Site
>> Server
>>>> and some routers it discovered.
>>>>
>>>> I have the Site Boundaries and Discovery subnets
setup
>> to
>>>> encompass all the subnets. It is obviously
discovering
>>>> the systems, it is not generating the DDRs.
>>>>
>>>> Help!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
>
>.
>

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