Re: Identifying PUB websites

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For a long while I have avoided joining this argument and have always
admired the work DavidF has put into helping novices, some of whom need a
more fundamental education on computers than this forum can provide.
Not everyone can get Pub2000 and in fact most of those needing help have
only recently started out in web design and are restricted to what they have
i.e.. Pub 2007 and more and more people are using IE8.
So to continue peddling patches to PUB of any Version is fairly fruitless.
There are other WYSIWYG web design programs that do not have the most common
problems that PUB has and do not require any learning of HTML coding either.
Serif Webplus for instance happily uses master pages and happily centres the
output with no apparent problems with IE7, IE8 or FF3.

John G,

"Rob Giordano [MS MVP]" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You guys perhaps don't realize how much Eric is trying to help you.

Using Publisher to design websites is like using an adz to *square* a
piece of timber to fit in a *round* hole, when a electric wood lathe is
really what you should be using.

You should at least *try* some of the alternatives.



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Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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'Being an engineer by profession, it is against my nature to expend funds
greater than the need.

--
Don, Vancouver, USA
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"Find something you love to do and you'll
never have to work a day in your life."
Harvey Mackay, author


"Eric James" <no@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Sorry Don I wasn't intending to knock your web site, or anyone else's
for that matter - just David's rather ill-considered statement about
tools & skill.
Thing is, if you're using a rubbish tool for whatever it is you're
doing, you're always going to be constrained by that tool. And yes, you
can undoubtedly achieve better results by practice and learning how to
better use the tool - but that effort is essentially going to be wasted
when you finally hit the limits of the tool, and a lot of time and
effort could have been saved by getting a better tool in the first
place.
(And that's without even considering the fact that many of the problems
raised here have actually been caused by the tool not working properly,
rather than the user not using it properly!).
The complexity of analogies here though is that in the case of making
good web pages, if you put the effort into learning and understanding
html & css, you won't actually need a 'tool', and many tools can in fact
become more of a hindrance than a help - so it's not just about price.
Maybe it's like riding a bicycle - when you've learnt how to do it, you
won't need outriders any more and won't fall off and hurt yourself so
much.


"Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Eric,
Each organization that has a website does so for a specific purpose and
how and the quality is dependent on the resources of skill and
finances. I'm the first to admit I'm not an artist or highly skilled
designer (of websites). But my efforts of our Sons of Italy website,
www.vanusa.org is my best effort for, attracting those who wish to take
part in Italian heritage, customs, language and comradery get a posting
of how to contact us. The second, and maybe the most important use of
the site is the User name, Password protected area which contains
current member information, meeting minutes, announcements and other
documents for reference and interest.

So, you may knock our website; you may knock our lodge, but if you
knock mia nonna Apollonia's ravioli, we'll put you in the witness
protection plan. (As Tony Soprano would say)
If you can't identify the humor, you, with the prayers to Saint
Swithins are hopeless. (We use English Saints for the hopeless)

Ciao, mia amico.

--
Donato - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA









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