Re: C-Drive stem folders with duplicate website info???

David, Viola, we are now on the same page, and your verbiage has solved all
my problems, except for doing some very stupid things. Now, however, I can
see that the ftp.lch-hoa.com folder contains GoDaddy files to make the
crossover work and to enable my "index_files" and the "index.htm" folder to
load at the webhost site, GoDaddy, using FileZilla.

So far all my work has been done using Office 2007 and VISTAr, but I expect
to use Office 2003 and Windows XP when I take my laptop back to Washington
State to keep the website updated.

Answer to your first question, no I cannot log on to my website. When I or
anyone else tries, the following message appears:
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The page you tried to access does not exist on this server. This page may
not exist due to the following reasons:

1. You are the owner of this web site and you have not uploaded (or
incorrectly uploaded) your web site. For information on uploading your web
site using FTP client software or web design software, click here for FTP
Upload Information.

2. The URL that you have entered in your browser is incorrect. Please
re-enter the URL and try again.

3. The Link that you clicked on incorrectly points to this page. Please
contact the owner of this web site to inform them of this situation.
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I HAVE ALWAYS USED Vista, AND OFFICE 2007, and this is where I may have
"created a 'network place' which was (as you said) both the 'ftp folder' and
the 'www folder.' "

This is going to sound crazy, but I only deleted the "index_files," the
"index.htm" file, and the "stats" file from the ftp.lcn-hoa.com root
directory, and left the others in place, the webhost site went away. The
"stats" file must be an essential GoDaddy entry, which is needed to keep the
website working. What I am saying is that all three are GoDaddy files are
essential: _db_backups, aspnet_client, and stats, which is the only GoDaddy
file I deleted with HOA Website Files (inside of which must have been
index_files and index.htm). Am I making any sense to you?

Now, back to another of your questions: can you still logon to your FTP site:
ftp.lan-hoa.com with FileZilla? Are those '_db_backups', 'aspnet_client'
and 'stats' folders gone?

MY RESPONSE: I cannot log onto the FTP site, and when I reach the FileZilla
screen, I cannot see any of the GoDaddy created files mentioned in your
question. So, contacting GoDaddy may be the right fix and to ask them to
replace those three files so when I drag the "index_files" and "index.htm"
onto the right side of the FileZilla screen, they will load properly, and the
website will be up and running again.

Your suggestion follows: You don't need to explain how you goofed up, just
tell them you did and provide them with your domain name, the user ID or name
and your password. They will reinstall all these default folders and files
and you can start fresh.

MY RESPONSE: I plan to do this immediately after I log off from the
Publisher Office Online website.

Your last suggestion follows: Now I should clarify something. You created a
folder on your computer called "HOA Website Files". This is where you
directed your Publisher web files (the index.htm file and index_files
folder). Put that folder either on your Desktop or somewhere you can easily
find it. When you upload again, upload *just* the Publisher webfiles, *not*
the whole 'HOA Website Files' folder. The index.htm file and index_files
folder should be uploaded to the same directory and at the same level as the
'_db_backups', 'aspnet_client' and the 'stats' folders.

MY RESPONSE: The only thing in the HOA Website files folder are the two
files "index_files" and "index.htm" so highlighting and dragging them into
the ftp.lch-hoa.com folder should be OK, but even though I have examined the
contents of this folder (HOA Website Files) I cannot be 100% sure that there
aren't hidden files.

YOur next suggestion follows: I think you may have been making another
mistake with Publisher 2003. After you opened your Publisher file and were
ready to publish your web files, you said that you did a ""Save a web page".
If you do this Publisher 2003 creates what is called 'unfiltered' or 'rich'
files, that are bloated with Office tags and such. Instead when you are ready
to publish go to File 'Publish to the Web' and direct your files to the 'HOA
Website Files' folder on your computer. This will produce filtered files in
both Pub 2003 and 2007. Then using FileZilla upload the index.htm file and
the index_files folder to your FTP site: ftp.lan-hoa.com and you should be
good to go.

MY RESPONSE: Early in my reply to your questions and solutions, I mentioned
that I have only used Office 2007 and VISTA, but have not yet used WinXP nor
Office 2003. I am sure that what you say above will be essential to making
me able to use Office 2003 and XP to make modications to my website easily.

Way too much verbiage, and I know that I repeated my self twice, but at
least now we are using the same language, and for that I am eternally
grateful.

OK, my friend, I think the chemo (your advice and help) worked, and I am
disease free or should I say almost with a few changes :-)

After I make all the changes, and contact GoDaddy, i will give you an update
so I can put these errors behind me. Didn't Ringo Starr once have a song,
titled, "with a little help from my friends?"

If so, you have earned that rank, a friend indeed.

Thomboy

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"DavidF" wrote:

Thomboy,

First of all, you can probably never write too many words describing your
problems or issues. Quite the opposite is usually true, leaving us to guess
what the poster is asking. In fact with this follow up post I think I now
may know what is going on, and I have good news and bad news...but not that
bad.

I think the 'folders' you are seeing on your C drive were the webhost
folders and files. I don't know if I can explain this really well, but with
your XP machine you probably at some point in time created a 'network place'
which was both the 'ftp folder' and the 'www folder'. When you looked inside
those folders you saw the files and folders on your host server or drive.
That is why you saw the non-Publisher folders '_db_backups', 'aspnet_client'
and 'stats'. These are webhost folders that contain files and such that
control and monitor your website. Your Publisher web files (index.htm and
the index_files folder) should be at the same level as these GoDaddy
folders. This is your root directory. Your FTP site is ftp.lan-hoa.com .When
you deleted all those folders you not only deleted your Pub web files but
also all of the host files and folders. What you should have done was to
delete *only* the index.htm file and the index_files folder.

So the first question I have is can you still logon to your FTP site:
ftp.lan-hoa.com with FileZilla? Are those '_db_backups', 'aspnet_client'
and 'stats' folders gone? If not then you can simply upload new Publisher
web files. If you can't log on with FileZilla or the GoDaddy folders are
gone then the first thing you will need to do is contact GoDaddy support,
and tell them that you think you accidentally deleted all their files and
folders in your FTP site and you need them to set up your site again. You
don't need to explain how you goofed up, just tell them you did and provide
them with your domain name, the user ID or name and your password. They will
reinstall all these default folders and files and you can start fresh.

I am done with the bad news.

Once they notify you that they have fixed things, you will be ready to
upload fresh files. The good news is that you already know how to use
FileZilla. The reason this is good news is that the FTP uploading process
changed from Windows XP to Windows Vista, but by using FileZilla the FTP
uploading process will be the same on both machines. Try connecting to your
site using FileZilla. If you can't you may have to go through the setup
process you did when you first setup things up with FileZilla. But once they
have fixed your site you should be able to logon to your site and see the
three folders in your root directory/folder again.

Now I should clarify something. You created a folder on your computer called
"HOA Website Files". This is where you directed your Publisher web files
(the index.htm file and index_files folder). Put that folder either on your
Desktop or somewhere you can easily find it. When you upload again, upload
*just* the Publisher webfiles, *not* the whole 'HOA Website Files' folder.
The index.htm file and index_files folder should be uploaded to the same
directory and at the same level as the '_db_backups', 'aspnet_client' and
the 'stats' folders.

I think you may have been making another mistake with Publisher 2003. After
you opened your Publisher file and were ready to publish your web files, you
said that you did a ""Save a web page". If you do this Publisher 2003
creates what is called 'unfiltered' or 'rich' files, that are bloated with
Office tags and such. Instead when you are ready to publish go to File >
'Publish to the Web' and direct your files to the 'HOA Website Files' folder
on your computer. This will produce filtered files in both Pub 2003 and
2007. Then using FileZilla upload the index.htm file and the index_files
folder to your FTP site: ftp.lan-hoa.com and you should be good to go.

Post back if you continue to have problems.

DavidF


"Thomboy" <Thomboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F88DA617-6A29-4314-88EA-C923B3603705@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Many thanks, David, but I am NOT the only one who tells you that, after
reading the many, many replies to posts at this Publisher site.

I think webhost refers to GoDaddy.com.

Q1. What I am confused about is what process creates a folder on the C
Drive stem/trunk called, "ftp.lan-hoa.com"? When I deleted the
index_files
and the index.htm files from this location, my website went down. It must
be
created after the upload of the two files/folders to my webhost or this
folder is created by Publisher?

FYI. When I "Save a a web page" when finished with my changes to the .pub
file, the wizard asks me where I want to place the "index_files," and the
"index.htm" and I place it into a folder called "HOA Website Files".

Somewhere along the line, I thought another step was required, between
placing lndex_files and the index.htm in the C drive folder (HOA Website
Files), and uploading them to my webhost (GoDaddy.com), using FileZilla?

Q2. I have another folder on my C drive stem called www.lcn-hoa.com,
which
may be the folder created by Publisher, or maybe I created it and don't
remember doing it?? This is where I drag "index_files and index.htm" from
the folder I created called, HOA Website Files, into www.lcn-hoa.com, and
then I right click the open space on the right side of the C drive stem
(shows the files inside of any folder you click), so I can select refresh,
making the NEW index_files and the index.htm overwrite the older two
files.

When I open FileZilla, I find the folder on my C drive stem
"www.lcn-hoa.com" and drag these two files (index_files, and index.htm) to
the right side that loads them to my website.

The web address is: www.lcn-hoa.com

Once I get the webhost site up, I will ask you a couple more questions.

Your answer about uninstalling IE8 makes good sense, and I will do that to
get the process of loading the .pub file from my desktop to my laptop.
The
nav bars are important to preview the website from my laptop.

Also, your comment about ((go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck
"rely on VML...". This will help in producing code that is more cross
browser compatible)) will also be critical for making both .pub files
compatible.

Sorry for all the verbiage, but what the heck, the more you know about
what
I am doing the easier it will be for see the problem so I can fix the
problems. Yes??

Thanks, Thomboy

"DavidF" wrote:

You may be mixing things up. It sounds like you are looking at your
webhost
files, not your C drive. Have you been downloading all your webhost files
to
your local computer?

Anyway to remind you of the proper workflow. Open your original Publisher
file for your website. 'Publish to the web" and Publisher will produce an
index.htm file (your home page) and an index_files folder which contains
all
the other pages of your site plus all the supporting graphics. You upload
the index.htm file and the index_files folder to your webhost. Then if
you
want to change your site, you repeat the process...open the original
Publisher file and generate new web files and upload those. You do not
open
and edit the .htm files in Publisher. You do not download the web files
from
the webhost server and try to edit those. Publisher is not a code editor.

You mention in your other post that you are going to use both Pub 2003
and
2007. Your Publisher file will open in both versions. The main difference
is
that in Pub 2003 you should go to Tools > Options > Web tab and uncheck
"rely on VML...". This will help in producing code that is more cross
browser compatible. As of Pub 2007, MSFT had removed this option.

You also mentioned in that on one of your computers you installed IE8,
but
you have IE7 on the other. You might consider uninstalling IE8 for the a
while and just staying with IE7. That way while you are working on your
Pub
file, if you want to do a webpage preview, you will be able to see your
navbars. You should still plan on 'ungrouping' the pages before you
upload
your web files so that the navbars will render for those people that view
your site with IE8. Read one of my long replies about the compatibility
issues with IE8 for more details about that.

DavidF

"Thomboy" <Thomboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:CD805831-BE4E-47B5-BF97-038A07AE95DF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
When looking at my C drive, and expanding it to show the folders, etc.,
two
folders are perplexing, because they have the same set of files.

1. The first folder is titled, "ftp.lcn-hoa.com" with the following
set
of
files:

_db_backups
aspnet_client
HOA - Website Files
Stats

2. The next folder is titled, "www.lcn-hoa.com" and has the following
files:

_db_backups
aspnet_client
HOA - Website Files
stats

The same data exactly, but why?

Is the ftp folder created after dropping and dragging the
"index_files,"
and
"index.htm" files into the "www.lcn-hoa" folder, after you have while
in
the
publisher .pub file, clicked on "save as a web page?"

I know that after you drop and drag the "index_files" and the
"index.htm"
files into the "www.lcn-hoa.com" folder space on the right of the
C-Drive
stem, you should click on "refresh" to cause the newest files to over
write
the older files.

I made a foolish decision and deleted the "HOA - Website Files" and the
"stats" file in the "ftp.lcn-hoa.com" folder, and then almost
immediately
the
website disappeared. Now all I get is a message saying that the site
is
not
accessible and to contact the administrator.

When I click on "Save as a web page," I place the index_files and the
index.htm file in a folder called, "HOA - Website Files."

My website address is: fttp://www.lcn-hoa.com

I am using Office Su9ite 2007.

Thomboy









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