Re: I have one for you i.e. Links not working in Firefox

Panos,

Believe it or not I had used that site the other night, but I could not tell
from it whether the links worked or not, I let it hit about 40 some different
browsers, took awhile. Maybe I didn't spent enough time with it to see if
you could actually access the page and check links.

Well I did it! Downloaded Firefox, whew! At first, not much impressed. I
have found some other things that do not show up well on my site in Firefox
and some of them don't make sense.

This page http://home.windstream.net/barryfowler/page62.htm has a nav bar
back to Home and it does not work in the Firefox I downloaded, now that is
strange because that is the only Nav Bar I have found that doesn't work. I
see the issue with page14 and it can be fixed, I'll do away with the design
gallery's sidebar and use text links like I did with page 37. One of the
things FF does is where I have a media player it will not show up, maybe I
need a plugin for the basic FF. But this page concerns me with FF, it messed
up a simple text link http://home.windstream.net/barryfowler/page58.html.mht
where the home link will not work and below it is a media player that does
not show up in FF.

Also my homepage seems to not show the CSS on all the links in FF. Some of
them are underlined, some are not, they are suppose to not show the underline
and when the mouse hovers over it should and does change color but put an
underline there.

In case you are wondering David, I am the guy that brought up the Pub 2007
question with the CSS snipet not working the underline decor html fragment
like it does in Pub 2003.

Well, don't know folks, I don't like the way FF changes and discolors some
fonts and graphics and I have a lot of fixing if I am going to get the site
to look like my IE7 shows. I still am researching the pros and cons, I still
read some people say that IE7 has caught up with security and some say no FF
is much better. I'll leave the jury out for now.

Thanks All!

"Panos" wrote:

Barry i have something here about your first question about the browsers...

If you do not want to install firefox, opera, etc in order to check how your
website looks try this website that i found, it gives you screenshots for any
browser you want to check: http://browsershots.org/ ( i suggest you do not
select many of them becasue take some time to load it )

Panos


"DavidF" wrote:

Barry,

I was wrong. That is what I get for not qualifying my statement. I am always
getting surprises when trying to build webs...

The filled text box on
http://home.windstream.net/barryfowler/page14.html.mht does not work in FF,
and yet the links in the filled text box on
http://home.windstream.net/barryfowler/page37.htm do. So you can't say that
filling a text box will always kill the links.

I do notice one difference in the two. The first is a bulleted list of
links, and the second isn't. Try removing the bullets and test.

Another possibility is that *sometimes* when you group together a number of
design elements, that will kill the links. So check to see if you have the
bulleted list text box grouped with anything else...ungroup and test.

And finally, I also notice that you produced two different kinds of pages.
One is a .mht file and the other is an .htm file. Until recently I would
have suggested that using .mht files would be a bad idea, but saw a site
where the user had produced a large site with each page saved as a .mht, so
I can't say that it won't work, or that you shouldn't do it that way. I
simply have little experience with .mht files and can not make an informed
judgment.

As per possible problems with FF, I wouldn't expect any. The download is
small and easy. One thing to watch for is that as you install it, you will
be given the option of making it your default browser...opt out and IE will
stay as the default. You may find that you like the browser better than IE
at some point, but the main reason to have it on your computer is to test
your site pages. If I didn't say it before, when you Publish to the Web,
direct the output to your hard drive where you can find it. Then all you
have to do is right click the .htm files...or .mht files, and open with FF
to test the page. That will be handy when you are trying to figure out why
one of the filled text boxes kills the links, and one doesn't.

Good luck.

DavidF

"Barry" <Barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks David,

The color in the text box is a tip I did not know about. Maybe that is
some
of the problem Mary was talking about with this page below, however I land
the links okay with my IE7;
http://home.windstream.net/barryfowler/page14.html.mht

And this page I took out the sidebar and replaced it with (yep you guessed
it) a colored text box: http://home.windstream.net/barryfowler/page37.htm
[I
was trying to troubleshoot the problem and thought I'd see if that would
fix
it, thinking it was the sidebar issue]

(Since no one has mentioned any technicial issues with having multiple
browsers, I am just about convinced to maybe try this Firefox out).

"DavidF" wrote:

All the links on the home page work fine. If you have a link that is not
working, please post a link to that specific page. One of the most common
reason for links to fail in FF is that the user fills a text box with a
color, which will result in that whole text box including linked text to
turn into an image. Don't use a fill color in text boxes with links.

Absolutely you should download FF and test your pages before you even
upload
them. You may not have many FF viewers right now, but if you can get the
pages to look ok in both IE and FF, then the page is likely to view ok in
most all browsers.

DavidF

"Barry" <Barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Before I get started, is there anything at all wrong with having more
than
one browser? From what I have read it appears ok to have additional
browsers
and in my case I need to check something with Firefox and I don't use
it.
Pros and Cons if you don't mind. Other than wasting 6megs of space it
must
be ok to have more than one browser.

Here's the question, I had a visitor to my site say he could not
connect
to
the links on my homepage http://www.accessbyfaith.org

I am using Publisher 2003 and in the boxes I have elected to put links
using
the design gallery's 'sidebar' and it works ok in IE 7, but I had a
visitor
say his Firefox would not connect to the links in the sidebar, but he
could
connect to the nav bar buttons.

I have already done the Tools - Options - Web and the Rely on VML was
not
checked anyway and I went ahead and checked the allow PNG. I did not
use
Master Page.

I know I could just redo the page with using text links, but I like the
look
of the sidebars and before I tear it up for the few Firefox folks I am
getting, I thought I'd see if there were any other tidbits and work
arounds
out there.

Thanks for any responses.






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