Re: Somethings not right.??!!
- From: "DavidF" <Nope@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:36:48 -0800
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"I can give you instructions on how to do that if you want to stay with
those buttons"
Ive decided to use colored rectangles. I want to put a "mouse over" tag in
to make them change when pointed at. Should be fun.
If you are going to do this, then you will be importing those images vs.
embedding them, so the quality issue will go away. Just a caveat...be
careful about adding too many bells and whistles. There is nothing wrong
with a simple textual menu, and KISS. And you can add some mouseover effects
to the text...
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"Are your text descriptions in individual text boxes?"
I did them as a table, does that work ok?
It might be ok, but sometimes tables are converted to images which will
leave the text a bit blurry and webbots will not be able to read and index.
In general, you should avoid design techinques that convert text to images
for that reason. That is why I would change your titles on each page. They
may look good with fancy fonts and formatting, but the webbots won't be able
to read them.
I also think that these textual descriptions of your current buttons ties in
with the overall question of how to build your navigation system. If you
plan on using a textual menu, then I don't think a table is going to work.
As you think through this go to this site:
http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk/index.htm and look at how he has
built his navbars. He originally was using a javascript menu with mouseover
effects, but went to this cleaner look in the most recent version. Look at
the bottom navbar for an example of what you could do on your site if you
want a horizontal navbar, and mouseover those links. He accomplished that
with a simple CSS code snippet that was inserted via the html code fragment
feature. Those links work in all browsers, and the webbots can follow those
links to index his site. Many if not most of the javascript menus can not be
followed by the webbots, and more people are electing to disable javascript
on their computers because of security reasons. So even if you do use your
"rectangles" with mouseover effects, and javascript to do that, you might
also want to provide the textual menu at the bottom of each page.
"I would seriously reconsider your background image."
I thought about that. I just used the one from the orig site that was
created 2 years ago. I was asked to create a "new" site. I did 20 in
PUB02.
presented them and they voted that they kind of liked the way the old site
looked in comparison and could I just re-do what was ther and update it.
What
a good day that was. :-)
Ok...sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. You might consider
editing that background image and lengthening it to accomodate bigger
screens. But not sure how that would come out...just have to experiment with
your image editor.
"Almost everything on this page is converted to an image:"
This is funny. I had the 9 pages done, right, well I decided to add the
"application page" by cutting and pasteing. Well I had the default page
size
set for the thing and when I opened the application page and looked it was
8.5x72. So me being a bonehead, reset the 10th page to 8.5x72 so I could
cut
and paste it in...well I wasnt even thinking, as Im sure you have guessed
by
the grin on your face...it canged ALL the pages to this size and moved all
of
the orig info to right down the page in the middle. I had to group
everything
together on each page, move it off the page area, resize and drag each
page
back onto the working area. Thats why everything is an image...I forgot to
break all the groups back up. Geeeeez.
Been there done that. Resizing a page can move your content around in
haphazrd way. I got to the point that I just create the new sized pages in a
second instance of Publisher, and then copy and paste from the old version.
Sounds like you have come to the same place.
I am hoping that much of your problem with images looking bad will be
because of not ungrouping the design elements. That would be explain why
some of the elements had been converted to images, while they didn't seem to
be overlapping other elements.
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"Now aren't you glad you asked me what was wrong? ;-) "
I need to see if we live close to one another, so I can buy you a coke,
coffee, or "beverage" of your choosing...LOL
That is a whole lot better than the offer I got to have my baby. Aieeeeee!
No problem...glad to help.
"seriously consider going back to Pub 2000 for your web work."
Would going up to 2003 help at all? I think I have access tho the disk. If
not, I may still do that.
Yes, moving to Pub 2003 would be much better than staying with 2002. MSFT
fixed a lot of stuff that they messed up in 2002. I still prefer 2000, but
would much prefer 2003 to 2002. Read: Publisher 2003 - What's new in web
design for this version :
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80555.aspx
and if you didn't before: Web Publication Changes Made in Version 2002 of
Publisher :
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/81262.aspx
BTW..did you see my pic on the http://auglaizeacres.com/index_image036 ??
The link doesn't work for me.
Talk to ya soon, Im sure.
Yep...I am sure too, but it sounds like you have a pretty good handle on
things. I would suggest that if you haven't done it already, download and
install a copy of FireFox and check your sites for compatibility. If you can
get your sites to work in both IE and FF, then you have most users covered.
It is a small download, and you might actually find that you like it better
than IE. And be careful about "upgrading" to IE7. There has been a lot of
problems associated with IE7...
Good luck.
DavidF
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