Re: How can I hyperlink to an enlarged picture in Publisher 2003?

David,

Since you gave me the suggestion (or at least encouraged me to do what I needed to do), I found there's a great thing and a horrible thing about using sub-folders or different files for pages:

You have to write absolute links, not a relative one.

Horrible, as I have to remember the exact location of the file. Great, as I don't have to redo all my links.

Now, before everyone decides to use a horde of sub-folders or different files for their web site, consider how your site is structured and updated. If you are going to have several categories that will keep growing, then I would set up a file for each category. This will keep the file size down (saving time with Save, Autosave, Publish, etc.) as well as provide a measure of safety if your file becomes corrupted - and it will if you add a lot of pages week after week.

OTOH, if one is going to just update a site periodically and not worry about keeping the old news, or adding a lot of pages over a period of time, there's probably not a good reason to split sites.

Of course, YMMV, Take this with grain of salt, Buyer Beware, E. Pluribus Unum, NaNa-NaNa, This Cat is where it's at, etc.!

Mike




DavidF wrote:
I'm back. answers in line


"The Kat" <TheKat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1D55872F-9154-4037-BCB4-86271144786A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Now YOU lost ME. I just did a "save as" of the optimized file because I was
unsure what would happen if I re-optimized the files after I added new
pictures. At least I can uncheck the allow PNG before any more of them breed
in my program. The site uses LOTS of photos - stained glass, fused glass,
jewelry,... and each piece is unique.



Sorry about that. To clarify, when I was talking about using Publish to the Web vs. Save As , I was referencing the way you produce your html files...not the way you save your Pub file. I think it is always a good idea of doing a Save As to a new name when you make any major change in a Pub file. Its nice to have that original to go back to.




I will have to oupdate the files frequently as new pieces are created and
new jewelry styles come out. Will it be best to replace the entire page and
load that up instead of trying to place each new photo into the niche of the
old one?




One of the places where Publisher starts to feel its limits is when the website gets big, and when you have pages that need to be updated frequently. When my site grew, I decided to break it up and produce it with multiple Publisher files. I have several parts of my site that get updated at least monthly, and I produce these with seperate Publisher files.

Depending on how you have things organized, you might be better off using multiple Pub files. Reference this article by David Bartosik: Building a web site with multiple Publisher web publication files:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx
I approach it a bit different than David though. I just create subfolders on my site for the different sections, and continue to use the index.htm as the default file name. Rather than mixing all those files in one folder, I find it easier to manage the files on my site when they are organized in separate subfolders...more like I have them organized on my computer. I also tend to just delete the entire contents of those subfolders before I upload the updated HTML. This is probably not necessary, but I like an empty folder and to avoid the possibility of orphaned image files that aren't overwritten by the new files. To each their own. Sometimes if it is only a word or two, I just change out the index.htm file. You will need to decide what makes sense for you. One caveat...you will probably need to abandon the navbar wizard and build your own navbar or menu with absolute links...





Should I presume the larger files will be the 400 pixel ones (sorry - NOT
dpi, I meant pixels!). I use Photoshop for the image fixes and crops. The
ones in the site now are at 100 DPI so the 400 "DPI" of which I spoke was 400
pixels across = 4" on my resize. Is this a reasonable size for the "big"
shots? How do I link the little PUB thumbnails to the larger files? And WHEN?
Before I save as HTML and move that to the site or after the site is up?




When you resize and optimize your images, I would agree with Rob. Make the images 400 pixels (or whatever final width you want), and at 72 or 96 dpi, for your "large" version. I find that 400 pixel wide images give me enough detail, but you might need larger, and perhaps not need that large depending on the photo. Try different sizes until you find the smallest that works for you. I use 100 or 150 pixel wide images for thumbnails. 100 can be awful small... As to linking the two, you didn't take the time to read the article I referenced did you? ;-) The short of it is that you will upload your large size images to a subfolder on your site, and link to them from your thumbnails. Here is the reference again: How to Thumbnail in Publisher 2003 Web Publications:
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=564





That's where you lost me - you say "publish to the web" and I don't have a
clue how to do that! I was planning to load HTML files that PUB creates each
time I save.




I don't know if you are still confused about this or not, but when you produce the html files from Publisher you can click on the little icon, or File > Publish to the Web. If you produce your html files this way they are "filtered" and your over all file size and loading time is minimized. What I didn't want you to do was go to File > Save As > Save as type, a web page in html format. That results in unfiltered html, that you don't want. Part of the confusion is that in Pub 2000, you do produce your html files via the Save As approach, and in Pub 2002 you do something different. Sorry if I confused you. Here is a brief outline of the whole process that might clear things up: Prepare, publish, and maintain your Publisher Web site:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HA011053521033.aspx

Now then, its all clear as mud, eh?

DavidF



Lost in space,
The Kat

"DavidF" wrote:


Pub 2003 makes copies of any inserted images in various formats including
PNGs. I don't remember if you have already done this, but if not, go to
Tools > Options > Web Tab and uncheck "Rely on VML..." and "Allow PNGs...".
This will minimize the use of PNGs, but not eliminate their production. Just
ignore them.

Secondly, unless I am reading your post wrong, you do not want to do a Save
As to produce your html output. Do a Publish to the Web, and you will get
filtered html.

400 dpi images are for print documents. It is good that you are using the
graphics compression tool in Publisher but if you want the optimal images in
your pages, then you will resize and optimize the images before they are
inserted into the page. And if you are going to link to "full size" images,
they have to be optimized and sized in a third party program. There are lots
of them out there, but a freebie that works pretty well is www.irfanview.com
.. Download and install it, and then open your original images and resize
them to the 400 or 480 pixel width, at 72 or 96 dpi and perhaps 30%
compression...play with it to see what final quality and size is acceptable
to you. If you want to optimize the images that you insert, just resize the
original to the custom size you created on your Publisher page, insert them,
and then make sure they are at 100% scale. (Select the image > Format >
Picture > Size tab). This is likely to give you the best picture when
viewed.

DavidF

"The Kat" <TheKat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Most of my "small" files are 400 dpi. I optimized the pages and did a save
as
(still need to add photos). I looked at the page image files (Not the ones
I
pasted) and the sizes were down considerably ... except for the PNGs. Does
this mean I should upload the ~400 dpi original files for my expanded
files.

Any way to edit the PNGs to make them smaller? That's a new format to me
and
it crept onto the pages with some of the Office graphics files. They are
real
space hogs!

"DavidF" wrote:


Reference: How to Thumbnail in Publisher 2003 Web Publications:
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=564

Size? Its a trade off. The bigger the picture, the larger the file, the
slower it loads. Start thinking in pixels instead of inches. I generally
use
a 400 pixel width for most "full size" views, and occasionally 480. This
gets the file sizes down to no more than 15 to 20 kb, which load pretty
fast. Some people will provide two links...one for dial-up users to
smaller
images, and another for broadband users where file size isn't so
important,
and then link these to larger pictures.

DavidF

"The Kat" <TheKat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I would like to link to expanded pictures as well.

What ia the best resolution and photo size (3x5, 4x6 ...) to use for
the
expanded pictures? I resized all my product thumbnails to 100 dpi and
a
small size before I stuck them into my Pub 2003 site. (at least I still
have
the master photos at 300 dpi).

How much does the "outside" photo link impact the loading time of the
site
page? Does the hyperlink slow down the load?

"Don Schmidt" wrote:


While in Publisher, right click the thumbnail, select hyperlink and
then
enter
/filename.jpg or if it is a gif or if it is a bmp. Upload the file
picture
along with the new website files.


--
Don
Vancouver, USA


"Sky 1962" <Sky 1962@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have resized my original pic to a thumbnail and added it to my
website.

Now

I would like it if I click on that thumbnail it would hyperlink to
my
original pic. What are the necessary steps. I'm running on Publisher
2003.









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