Re: Pages not uploading

Hi Graham,

Color me embarrassed. I couldn't understand why you used the .aspx
extension, until I went back to David Bartosik's article about building
textual menus. I must admit, that it has been a couple years since I
actually read the article, and I had forgotten that David used this in his
example. Sorry about that. That's the bad news.

The good news is that you are getting there.

First, change each ".aspx" to ".htm" .
Second, make sure you spell things correctly. You misspelled "lesley" for
the contacts page and "innscribing". A hint - once you get one path typed
correctly, copy and paste, and then just edit the parts that change...less
errors and faster that way
Third, change "default.aspx" to "index.htm" - that is your home page.


With those changes you have:

<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index.htm";>Home</a> |
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm";>contacts</a> |
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/whatwedo.htm";>whatwedo</a> |
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/innscribing.htm";>innscribing</a>
|
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/committee.htm";>committee</a> |
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/links.htm";>links</a> |

These links work...mostly.

For cosmetics, perhaps you might prefer:

<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index.htm";>Home</a> |
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm";>Contacts</a> |
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/whatwedo.htm";>What We Do<a> |
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/innscribing.htm";>Innscribing</a>
|
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/committee.htm";>Committee</a> |
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/links.htm";>Links</a> |

You can put spaces and upper case in the TEXT part of this code
snippet....just not the URL.

Now for some confusing news. Though the code snippet works, it shouldn't ;-)
If your site was performing as I would have expected, then you would have
had to add "index_files" to each path/URL written, except for the home page
(index.htm). The contacts.htm page should be in the index_files folder along
with all your images and graphics. And yet, the page and the images load
when you go to:
http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm

The link should be:
http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm
and yet that doesn't work.

To review, if you have not changed the defaults within Publisher, when you
Publish to the Web and produce your HTML output, you get an "index.htm"
file, which is your home page, and a "index_files" folder, containing all
your graphics and the other files/pages in your site...contacts.htm, etc.
This means that if you uploaded the index.htm file and the index_files
folder to your root directory on your host, then the following code snippet
should be correct:

<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index.htm";>Home</a> |
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm";>Contacts</a>
|
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/whatwedo.htm";>What
We Do<a> |
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/innscribing.htm";>Innscribing</a>
|
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/committee.htm";>Committee</a>
|
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/links.htm";>Links</a>
|

And while I am at it, here is a vertical version:

<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index.htm";>Home</a> <br>
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm";>Contacts</a>
<br>
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/whatwedo.htm";>What
We Do<a> <br>
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/innscribing.htm";>Innscribing</a>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/committee.htm";>Committee</a>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/links.htm";>Links</a>
<br>

Copy and paste. Then, go up to your site, and delete all the old Publisher
HTML files and folders, and upload fresh output from Publisher.

Sorry about adding to your confusion. I need to go back and read all David's
articles again, so I don't make that mistake next time. Let me know if this
works.

DavidF

"GeePee" <GeePee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:86F946A1-F8EA-42D5-8E96-6FC316264C60@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
David, Thanks for the very helpful guidance. As you suggested, i have
been
studying your instructions and the article about building my own textual
navbar.

This is how the coding looks for the navbar now:

<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/default.aspx";>Home</a> |
<a href="http://www.leslymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.aspx";>contacts</a> |
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/whatwedo.aspx";>whatwedo</a>
|
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/inscribing.aspx";>innscribing</a>
|
<a
href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/committee.aspx";>committee</a> |
<a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/links.aspx";>links</a> |

BUT, it does not look anything like your last post (should the bit after
the talktalk url be "index_files/ " in each line?)

viz "http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm";

I know the site/files are not ready to be uploaded, but I have done so,
just
so that you, if you wish can have a look at them, if you have time.

The links do not work either as a preview on my PC in Explorer nor on the
web, so again I have messed up !

One of my other problems is that I cannot give a massive amount of time to
this project as I have other work and responsibilities, so each time I
come
back to it I have to virtually start afresh. Perhaps that's the problem.

So where do I go from here, please?

Thanks for all your time.

Graham

"DavidF" wrote:

I am not sure what all you have done, but at www.the-innscribers.co.uk
and
at http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net it appears that you are still
using
the navbar wizard. To reiterate, you CANNOT use the navbar wizard when
the
site is framed. It writes relative links. You have to hand build a navbar
system with absolute links. Right now if you hover your mouse over any of
the links, you will notice not only relative links (
The%20Innscribers%20web%20site_files/contacts.htm), but also another
error...you are using spaces, which show up as "%20". You can't use
spaces
when writing a link/path to a file. Furthermore you should not have
renamed
the index_files folder "The Innscribers web site_files".

You need to go back and read the article about building your own textual
navbar, and study it and the example I gave you on how to write the
absolute
links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the approach
in
the article and the insert HTML code fragment tool; or insert a text box
with absolute links; or even icons/images with absolute links...it
doesn't
matter which as long as when you insert the hyperlink, it is an absolute
link/path to your files.

You can leave the page titles with the new names. This should make
writing
the absolute links easier than trying to use the arbitrary numbered files
Publisher chooses when you don't. Now the link/path to your contacts page
would be written as:
http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm instead of
http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/Page596.htm

It then follows that the link to whatwedo page will be:
http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/whatwedo.htm
etc, etc, etc for the rest of your pages. Remember, no spaces in the
links,
and I would suggest writing everything in lower case, to prevent further
problems.

If you build your navbar on your home page, you can then copy and paste
it
on your other pages.

Then delete the index.htm file and the "The Innscribers web site_files"
folder from you webhost, and republish allowing Publisher to generate the
index_files folder.

Good luck.

DavidF


"GeePee" <GeePee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F172A796-0811-4CAE-B79D-B749E16C5C14@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Here we are again. Still no success at linking pages. Since last post,
have
changed the file name, page title and folder for each page. i.e.
contacts
page now has the title 'Contacts' and file name of contacts.htm
You will see on the only page that is currently loaded (no other files
are
loaded - gifs etc) that the link points in the right(?) direction but
will
still not open pages other than the index.htm page.
I can upload all pages within the web site and can access them all
individually on the web but the hyperlink is defeating me.
www.the-innscribers.co.uk

GeePee" wrote:

Cannot thank you enough! I susoected that the links were pointing me
in
the
wrong direction but could not work out how/where etc..
Will reconstruct links with absolute links. Hope this all helps
someone
else
as well.
"DavidF" wrote:

That is because you are framing your site in
www.the-innscribers.co.uk
, and
the relative links that are used in the navbar are pointing to the
wrong
place for your other pages. Hover your mouse over the Contact Us
button, and
look at the status bar on the bottom of your page. It shows
index_files/Page596.htm which means it is looking for a page at:
http://www.the-innscribers.co.uk/index_files/Page596.htm , but that
is
not
where the page is actually located.

If you go to http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/ your home page
loads, and
if you click the Contact Us then it takes you to where the page
really
is:
http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/Page596.htm

Your options are to not frame your site, or to do away with the
wizard
built
navbar that uses relative links, and build one manually with
absolute
links.
Here is an article that will help you understand: Code your own
textual
navigation menu in Publisher:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81255.aspx

DavidF

"GeePee" <GeePee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A351FF5C-A316-4CCC-86E0-6F99A33CE97B@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Partial success! Have uploaded as advised and the host site now
shows
only
two folders - the index_files folder and the HTML folder. The Home
web
page
now loads correctly with all graphics in place BUT, none of the
hyperlinks
work to enable me to go to the other five pages of the site. Could
that be
somthing to do with Publishers 'naming' of those pages? More help
please
when
you have time.
You can see the first effort on www.the-innscribers.co.uk
GeePee
"GeePee" wrote:

Thanks David - I have been uploading all the individual files in
the
index_files folder. Whoops! I will try again.

"DavidF" wrote:

Upload the index.hml file and the FOLDER index_files. All the
individual
files in that folder should stay in that folder.

DavidF

"GeePee" <GeePee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F428542B-5C17-498B-B70D-4A18ABAED644@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I have the same problem as Kim. I DO upload the index.htm file
and all
of
the
files contained in the folder with all the other files,
graphics
etc
but
they
all appear as individual files on the web page. The index.htm
file
opens
as
the home page (without graphics etc). Also there are some
unknown
files
with
some Win Media file extensions (?) which have been produced
by
Publisher.
Any
help please?

"DavidF" wrote:

When you Publish to the Web, Publisher produces the HTML
output
in
the
form
of an index.htm file, plus a index_files folder that
contains
your
other
pages and supporting graphics. It sounds like you didn't
upload
the
folder.

DavidF

"Kim" <km76@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:41827442-FEC1-452D-8D56-734B1959DAA4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Only my home page is uploading to the web. The link that
was
provided
before
to answer this question is directing me to a page that
doesn't
help me.
Can
some one please give me detailed information regarding
this
problem?
Thank
you!!!

Kim














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