Re: Changing gif to jpg?

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"DavidF" <Nope@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yeah, this website building stuff can make your head hurt. Now you know
why the professionals get paid the big bucks...;-)

I see what you are talking about, and any time a JPG is converted to a GIF
the quality is going to be reduced whether it is done in an image editing
program, or by Publisher. It appeared to me that when you overlapped
images it was worse than when you used just one image, but you also have
some "blotchy" single images. This is probably a function of the original
photograph...some were better than others? I don't know. Bottom line is
that Pub 98 converts JPGs to lower quality GIFs by default, and that is
something you have to live with, or work around as I discussed. And no,
there is not an easy way.

When I referenced the link http://www.nakarminiatures.com/img73.gif I
wanted to illustrate how the text was also converted into an image along
with the original images of your horses. That particular example converts
two text boxes and 4 images into one big image. This is usually caused by
overlapping the text boxes, but it can also happen if the text box is
simply too close to the image. Resize your text box, or nudge it over, and
away from the text until the text is no longer converted. You can do a web
page preview to test.

The Design Checker is likely to be under Tools, but you could also go to
Help and type in "design checker" and see if that tells you where, or if
you have the tool. As I said, you can test the text by trying to
highlight/select it in web page preview, or on your site. If it has been
converted to an image, you won't be able to select it. And yes, the text
will look close to the same...just not as good and crisp when it is
converted.

Once again, the bottom line is that there is no easy way to do what you
want. You gained convenience by using Pub 98, a desktop publishing
program, that has limited web building capability. The trade off is that
if you want better results, you either switch to a better program designed
specifically for web building, or you invest the time to workaround the
limitations. The workarounds I described are not really that hard, but
they do require you to invest some time to learn a bit about image
editing, and a bit more about how web pages are built...this work can be a
bit overwhelming at first, but goes with building your own site. Heck, you
have the basics of a pretty attractive site that obviously took a long
time to build...live with it until you can learn more about image editing,
and the other things you need to do, and then do one thing at a
time...you'll get there.

DavidF

"Karin" <Karin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Whoa, David, you're making my head hurt! LOL

David, if you check out: http://www.nakarminiatures.com/page16.html on
my
website and look at the last horse, RSF Champagne Melody, the picture is
blotchy. I did try to separate and use only one picture and it looked
the
same, blotchy. There was no over lapping. The single picture of QT looks
okay, but it is showing up as a gif. Isn't there any way to change it to
a
jpg that wouldn't involve something too complicated? I just think it is
weird that not all the photos come up blotchy when not overlapped.

When you say the text is over lapping, do mean that the text box itself
is
overlapping the image? None of my text boxes are over lapping an image.
When
I view the text on the web it looks fine. The text for QT and Dolly look
similar.
Any idea where I would find the Design Checker, if there is one?
What is a third party image editing program? Would that be something
like
Picture It?
Arrrrgggg! There has got to be a way to fix this where computer
illiterate
people can do it. LOL
Thanks a bunch, David
karin

"DavidF" wrote:

Karin,

Yes, the URL is your website address, but as JoAnn pointed out, it helps
if
you spell it correctly.

Honestly, with all the images you are using, and the way you are
overlapping
images, you aren't going to do much better than what you have done
unless
you are willing to redesign your site. Let me explain...

Go to http://www.nakarminiatures.com/page5.html which is your Our Mares
page. Note the first picture of Mini Bits is relatively good, but if you
look at the overlapping pictures of Cash N' Carry, you'll notice how
blotchy
the images look. That is because your original images have been combined
into one image:
http://www.nakarminiatures.com/img70.gif
If you want your images to look better, then you can't overlap them.
Then
look at this link:
http://www.nakarminiatures.com/img73.gif
In this case you have not only overlapped the images, but you have also
overlapped the text boxes and converted the text to an image which makes
the
text look bad. So, on top of not overlapping your images, you shouldn't
overlap the text boxes.

I don't know if Pub 98 has a Design Checker, but if it does, run it.
This
should/might tell you where you have overlapped text boxes. Otherwise,
you
can try to select the text on your site, and if you can't then it has
been
converted to an image and you need to move the text box in your
Publisher
file. Try selecting the text describing Hello Dolly for example, vs. the
text beside Mini Bits and compare the quality of the text.

As long as you are overlapping your images, then neither the Microsoft
method of importing your JPG images, or the "code fragment" method will
work. Furthermore, given the large number of images that you are using,
I
don't know that it is practical to try to import the images. To do so,
you
would need to use a third party image editing program to resample,
resize
and optimize each image to fit the size you have chosen on your website.
Now
if you used a program like www.irfanview.com and mostly the same size
images
for each horse, you could do them in a batch to save time. Then you
would
have to redesign your site so that none of the images would overlap.
Then
you would use the "insert HTML code fragment" to insert the following
code
for each image:

<IMG SRC="http://www.yourwebsite.com/images/yourimage.jpg"; ALT="Whatever
you
want the alt tag to say">

The alt tag is optional, so you could just use:

<IMG SRC="http://www.yourwebsite.com/images/yourimage.jpg";>

and then size your fragment box the same size as the image.

This is assuming that you create a subfolder on your site called
"images"
and uploaded all your images to that folder. While you could upload them
to
http://www.yourwebsite.com/ you would probably end up deleting part of
them
when you uploaded revised and updated pages in the future, so I would
recommend that you create the subfolder.

As I said, I would probably just live with your images, but you can do
what
you want, but it is going to require some work with an image editing
program
to optimize and size the images before you upload them, and then you
will
need to redesign your site and not overlap any of the images or fragment
boxes. Perhaps an alternative to that would be to just add a text box
below
each image or group of images, and link it to your higher quality JPG
images. In other words, add a text box that said something like "Click
here
for a larger image" and insert a hyperlink to the image which you put in
your new "images" folder where you upload your higher quality, larger
and
slower loading images. That way if someone wants a better image, they
can
click the link. Just an idea...welcome to webdesign.

DavidF

"Karin" <Karin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Sorry, I am not very computer literate. Isn't the URL my website
address?
I
just put www.nakarminiatures.com into my address bar and it came up.
http:// does show up in the front of it. I don't think I have any
overlapping pictures with text. I do have photos that overlap. But
it
doesn't seem to matter if they are single or multiple - everything is
gif.

"DavidF" wrote:

Karin,

The link to your site does not work. Is the URL incorrect? Did you
take
it
down? When you said that the changes you tried to make did not work,
did
you
actually upload the new HTML to your site?

Part of the reason I wanted to see your site was that in some cases
if
you
overlap images with text boxes and other design elements, then your
images
will be converted to combined GIF images with those overlapped design
elements, and this might explain why your efforts failed. With the
URL
either incorrect or the site not being posted, it is kind of hard to
check
that, or why your efforts didn't work. Please either upload your
site, or
post the correct URL.

The reason I asked about whether you had access to the "insert HTML
code
fragment" tool, is that I think that using this tool, is a better
solution
than the one you tried as per the Microsoft site. The Microsoft
approach
would require you to edit the code of each page each time you updated
or
changed your site, as each time you would produce new *.*html pages,
and
you
would have to edit them again. If you use the code fragment tool, you
won't
have to do this. However, if you are overlapping your images, then
the
code
fragment approach won't work. So before I go through all the steps of
how
to
use the code fragment tool approach, post the URL.

DavidF

"Karin" <Karin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi David - My url is: www.nakarminiature.com
I have an "insert HTML Fragment" under "Insert" in Pub98.
My pictures are being converted from jpg to gif and some are coming
up
as
blotchy or looking like a watercolor pictures when viewed on the
web.

"DavidF" wrote:

Karin,

What is the URL of your website?

Does Pub 98 have the "insert HTML code fragment" under tools?

DavidF

"Karin" <Karin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It was suggested that I try my question here. Publisher98
changes
all
my
pictures to gif. I was given a link to directions. It
suggested
that
I
go
in the website folder and select the file with the graphic. I
saved
the
original grapic in the folder that contains my publication. I
followed
the
directions and clicked on the numbered page where the graphic is
found
on
my
website. Changed the HTML to reference my original graphic.
When I
tried
to
open it in the web browser nothing changed. In the directions
is
mentioned:
"image file should be in the same folder and at the same level
as
the
Html".
I am not sure what "same level" means. Any help would be great.
Thanks - Karin




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