Re: floating check boxes on web pages

From: David Bartosik - MS MVP (dbartosik_at_mvps.org)
Date: 02/23/04 

Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:12:38 -0600

Might re-read my post, the patch IS sp1.

I'd suggest sending me your file for me to make some suggestions after I
review it. I noticed on the testing page if the mouse is over the test for
success paragraph the whole text box pops up in a tooltip. I have only seen
one other customer do that and at the moment I don't recall what they did
wrong to get that. I just remember that I fixed it after I got the file. I'd
have to review your file to recall what that issue was. 

-- 
David Bartosik - MS MVP
for Publisher help:
www.davidbartosik.com
enter to win Pub 2003:
www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx
"K." <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1409701c3f9ba$9920c200$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the mini tour!  I will throughly read the
> first four articles on your web site (2002) so I can come
> up to speed. I am a novice at this.
>
> Although I sound like I am freaking out, I am more
> frustrated than anything.  I knew Publisher from a
> publications point of view, but my boss wanted a website
> (now!), so he asked me to put something together using
> what software we had.  I think I did okay with the first
> version I did.  The form control check boxes looked fine
> on my web page preview, but I downloaded a patch so that
> my version of Publisher 2002 had the export command.
> That seemed to change things the check boxes, etc.
>
> I will be happy to download the SP1 patch, but when I
> search on MS downloads, I come up with multiple listings,
> so if you could tell me the date of the patch, whether it
> is a Publisher-only patch or an Office patch or other
> specifics, I would appreciate that.
>
> I will redo the two form pages, since the text ordering
> as previously described in my other complaints is not
> ordered correctly.  If none of this corrects the problem,
> short of becoming prematurely bald through hair plucking,
> I will send you either all 14 pages of the publisher
> website file or just the two form control pages -- the
> only ones I am having problems with -- whichever you
> prefer.  And though I don't drink, I will buy YOU a beer
> if you can help me out.
>
> You can check out the website as it currently exists
> (uploaded with all the checkbox problems) at
> www.diamondbacktechnology.com  There are still glitches
> throughout, but the form pages are pages 10 and 11 (not
> numbered)  On the home page, upper right, click on "Ask a
> question" for page 10 and "Request a quote" for page 11.
> The e-mail form I want to receive these in is still not
> working, but that's a problem for another day.
>
> Another long e-mail.  Sorry, I write like I talk --too
> much information.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >well first off you really seem to be freaking out over
> the whole filter web
> >page option.
> >
> >you should read the first 4 articles on my sites 2002
> page to educate
> >yourself on this fully.
> >
> >I'll give you a short nickel tour version now to try an
> calm you down.
> >
> >The release of 2002 introduced a drastic change in how
> it did web sites. The
> >File, Save as web page operation generated html files
> that were a blend of
> >complex xml and xhtml. There was so much code in the web
> page that a simple
> >minimum textual page could be 400 kb. (compared to maybe
> 20 kb in version
> >2000) All the extra code was mainly there to allow 2002
> to open these html
> >files for modification. MS called this "round-tripping",
> whereby instead of
> >having a .pub file and making modifications to the .pub
> file (as in all
> >previous versions) and then generating new html files
> after every change you
> >now no longer used a .pub file. You directly opened and
> modified the html
> >files and keep using the same ones.
> >The size of such a web page and it's impact vastly
> outweighed the
> >resourcefulness of this and MS wrote a patch to stop
> this behavior and
> >return to the design of a .pub file and therefore strip
> most of the bulky
> >code from the html pages.
> >This patch (now known as SP1) converts File, Save as web
> to File, Export as
> >web.
> >This is to distinguish it from the previous design which
> they retained, if
> >you know where to look (keep reading).
> >They then termed this as "filtered" web pages.
> >So File, Export as web generates one time use html files
> written in a
> >simpler xhtml format, that, though still a larger file
> size than it's
> >younger sister, is at least usable online.
> >The other design they then termed as "rich-output". It
> is still available if
> >you desire elephant size files rather than cat size
> files (ideally they'd be
> >mouse size). Simply do not use Export as, instead use
> Save as and then
> >select 'web page' from the file type menu. (this
> paragraph applies to
> >version 2003 as well though 'export' now
> reads 'publish').
> >Unfortunately it was discovered after the patch release
> that it didn't
> >properly code the form controls. However the work-around
> for this issue is
> >better than the alternative (of using MB gobbling web
> pages).
> >
> >Since the release of the patch I have not encountered a
> single customer that
> >had this form control issue, be unsuccessful with the
> work-around. That said
> >my only option to offer you is that you send me your pub
> file for my review.
> >Then grab a beer an chill awhile :-)
> >
> >-- 
> >David Bartosik - MS MVP
> >for Publisher help:
> >www.davidbartosik.com
> >enter to win Pub 2003:
> >www.davidbartosik.com/giveaway.aspx
> >
> >>
> >> First of all, thank you for responding so quickly.  I
> >> read your response and checked the information on your
> >> website. Here is my dilemma.
> >>
> >> I don't mind starting over to reorder the placement on
> >> the form controls to correct the problem with the form
> >> controls, but I cannot resolve the issue with the
> >> floating text boxes.  I was aware of the group/ungroup
> >> issue, but even ungrouping them doesn't resolve the
> check
> >> box problem.  The text associated with the check box
> >> appears where it should, but the check boxes
> >> appear "everywhere."  I have heard that it may have
> >> something to do with exporting in the web filtered
> >> format. Do you know anything about this?  Now that I
> have
> >> done that (exported into filtered), I cannot export it
> >> into any other format as that is the only option I am
> >> given each time I try to export.  Is that correctable?
> >> Even though I have the saved publisher file, the web
> >> filtered format is the only choice available.
> >>
> >> Secondly, I have downloaded every patch and service
> pack
> >> available for Windows XP and Publisher. I am still
> faced
> >> with the same two problems:  floating check boxes and
> >> export into web filtered format only.  Do I need to
> start
> >> over with both "form" pages in the website?  And to
> >> correct the export problem (more selections than web
> >> filtered), do I need to redo the entire website in a
> >> separate publisher document. As it is, I cannot export
> as
> >> anything but the "web page filtered."
> >>
> >> Sorry for the long post.  Just want to be clear. Thanks
> >> for any input!
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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