Re: Crash when copying and pasting tasks from linked project file.
- From: John <mjensen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 13:19:17 -0700
In article <EB7DDE21-71F7-4D3F-A843-77745F97B71F@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
&e7 <producerfellahNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sorry, I thought I'd explained it pretty clearly. Here's more info...Andy,
This is a large games project, so we have producers responsible for art,
code, animation, audio etc. Each of these guys is making a schedule of all
their team's work to the end of the project. They each have a seperate MPP
for their team's work. One for the art, one for the animations etc. The tasks
in each file run into the hundreds and even thousands.
I've got all these seperate MPP files inserted into a master file, so that I
can level everything and make sure that their work won't overrun key
milestone dates. This allows the producers to update their own MPPs without
having to worry about the contention that would arise if EVERYTHING was in
one giant MPP.
Each month, I want to move tasks, selected from their mpp files into one
place so that the ENTIRE team can see what they need to be working on for
that month. Having all the tasks for a month's milestone in one place makes
it easier for the team to work out the intricate dependencies that exist
between the work.
If I expand one of the inserted files, click on a task and drag it into the
parent MPP, MSproject crashes. This is my problem.
I'm TRYING to work with the tools that I currently have, but am now thinking
more and more about the collaborative merits of the Hansoft PPM tool :(
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&e7
I guess you did explain it but I couldn't quite believe what I was
reading. Apparently Rob couldn't either and I think he summed it up
pretty well. I would add just one thing. It's probably a good thing that
Project is crashing. Dragging and dropping selected tasks from an
inserted project into the master is creating a configuration that is
ripe for corruption. Perhaps Project is telling you that what you are
doing is not a good idea at all. Links in Project, including those
between a master and its subprojects, are not at all robust. Keeping
things operating smoothly and avoiding corruption requires diligence and
following basic good practices on the user's part.
I was going to suggest that each month you create a static master. That
is, unlink all the subprojects and then selectively edit the static
master so it contains only those tasks of interest for the month. Then
you mentioned that you have intricate dependencies between tasks in the
subprojects. When a dynamic master is converted to a static master those
links are lost unless a VBA procedure is used to preserve the logic
structure. I do have such a macro but it is not freeware.
John
Project MVP
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"John" wrote:
In article <2E52D018-6F17-45E0-87B6-957868E9D2C8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
&e7 <producerfellahNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm inserting full mpp files that just contain the work for eachAndy,
department
(didn't know you could insert sections - and yes, sounds scary).
My problem is cutting and pasting tasks between the inserted file and the
main one that contains it.
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&e7
I think you misunderstood Rob's reply. With Project a user can NOT
insert parts of a file into a master file - it's all or nothing. Don't
confuse "insert" with cut and paste. In Project "insert" has a special
meaning. It is the process of placing a pointer to one file (the whole
file) into another - that's how Project creates dynamic master files.
I'm still having trouble understanding why you insert the subproject
files into the master and then also want to cut and paste. The two seem
totally redundant. If you were just creating a dynamic master (i.e.
linked subprojects), OR cutting and pasting selected tasks from the
subprojects into another file (pseudo master), then it might make some
sense. Like Rob, I recommend the former, (i.e. linked master), since it
keeps everything tied together dynamically. Creating a pseudo master by
cutting and pasting creates a whole lot of manual maintenance overhead
and more chance for human error. But don't try to do both, (i.e. insert
and cut/paste), as I said in my initial response(s), you are just asking
for tons of trouble.
John
Project MVP
"John" wrote:
In article <E661AA05-B751-47E0-B58E-0F33A91E4255@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
&e7 <producerfellahNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Oh and yes, I have SP2
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&e7
"&e7" wrote:
I'm trying to copy and paste tasks from a linked project file into
the
master
file.
Practically every time I try to paste the copied selection Project
crashes.
There are some instances where I can copy tasks. I don't have a
particularly
complex setup here as I'm just trying to set up a system where
multiple
project managers can work on the same project by each having their
own
linked
files.
Of course, unless I can find a way of copying tasks from their
backlog
files
into the current iteration the whole thing will grind to a sad end.
Anyone know any solutions?
Please don't say 'Project Server' to me though ;)
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&e7
&e7,
I replied yesterday but don't see that reply so I'll try again. Pardon
me if this is redundant.
You mention having SP2 but you don't say which version of Project. I'm
not sure it matters but it is always good information to supply when
posting.
I'm confused about what you actually have with regard to configuration.
You say you have a linked file. What is is linked to? What is the
master
made up of (i.e. does it include the noted file or something else)?
What
exactly are you trying to copy and paste?
If you are trying to set up a configuration wherein more than one user
has simultaneous read/write access to a file, that can't happen. And as
far as copying files with links, you are asking for trouble (i.e.
corruption).
If you can give us a more succinct description of your configuration
and
your end goal, then we can help. And, the answer may or may not be
Project Server.
John
Project MVP
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