Re: Task Dependency

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Hi Omar,

Sorry, I don't use any form of instant messaging -- too much going on
through email, cell phones, land lines, pagers etc. to add another
communication method
;-)

None the less, I'll see if I can offer any additional help to you through
this forum.

I understand that you have multiple project files all feeding into a master
project file. You don't say whether the master project is created through
the Insert>Project command or whether you have created a master project by
sharing resources from a resource pool.

If you have created the master using Insert>Project into a master, what you
are seeing (I assume) is that the baseline for the Inserted Project Summary
tasks (line representing each inserted project) is not baselined. If you
show all tasks in the inserted project, each task from the project should
have a baseline if you saved it before creating the master project. To
check for baseline easily, apply the Baseline table through View> Table >
More Tables and select the baseline table from the list.

Although you have baseline information for the Project Summary task in each
project file, when you consolidate projects, the Inserted Project Summary
tasks is created "on the fly". You can select the Inserted Project Summary
tasks in the master project and save a baseline. (Tools>Tracking> Save
baseline. To create the baseline only for the Inserted Project tasks,
select "Selected Tasks" and choose to "Roll up Baselines: to all summary
tasks." This will save the baseline for the Inserted Project Summary tasks
as well as save the baseline for the Project Summary task for the
Consolidated Project. If you don't wish to baseline the master project
summary task, just keep the Roll up Baselines options unselected.

I hope this helps somewhat. Let us know how you are doing and please
continue to post to this thread if you have further questions.

Julie


"omar" <omar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:43006697-59CC-46F9-8C56-B5F9ACBF610B@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi Julie,
> I am a little confused, since I am having to save baselines on
> both the master file and the project file. Do you use msn messenger? If
> you
> do, can you add me so you can help me better understand this.
> Thank You,
>
> omar_rana@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> "JulieS" wrote:
>
>> Hi Omar,
>>
>> Now things are a bit clearer. I recall a thread awhile back about that
>> specific problem in master projects. (See a thread in this ng on April
>> 20,
>> 2005 started by Melanie titled "Saved baseline but no data was saved in
>> master".) The baseline is not saved in a consolidated project until you
>> specifically save the baseline in the master file. If you read the posts
>> back in April -- this creates a problem with the baselines being
>> overwritten
>> for each new project added to the master.
>>
>> Hope this helps. Let us know how you get a long.
>>
>> Julie
>> "omar" <omar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:EB1D82E4-5883-4FC0-83E9-C2EC1AB59A63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Julie S: Under tools>tracking>Save Baselines ~ I do have it saved for
>> > the
>> > entire project.
>> >
>> > Steve House: When I am talking about two different projects - I mean
>> > two
>> > entirely separate task lists, each in its own mpp file. To better
>> > explain
>> > you
>> > what I am doing: We have lot of projects with running with separate
>> > task
>> > list
>> > and we are linking the the task to a Global Master. And on the global
>> > master
>> > the start date and finish date gets updated but not the Baselines.
>> >
>> > thank you
>> >
>> > "Steve House [Project MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just to help clarify your question, some people use the term "project"
>> >> to
>> >> mean a summary task although that's not really the correct
>> >> terminology.
>> >> When you say "project" are you talking about to entirely separate task
>> >> lists, each in its own mpp file or are you talking about two major
>> >> groups
>> >> of
>> >> tasks indented under their own "project name" headings but all in the
>> >> same
>> >> mpp file?
>> >> --
>> >> Steve House [MVP]
>> >> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>> >> Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "omar" <omar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:41FC7BD4-E9BE-4875-84AD-2917E406179D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > How do you save the baseline for the entire project? I have two
>> >> > different
>> >> > projects. I am just saving the baseline for the predecessor which is
>> >> > linked
>> >> > to the successor.
>> >> > thanks
>> >> > omar
>> >> >
>> >> > "JulieS" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Omar,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you save the baseline for the entire project which contains the
>> >> >> successor, the task will be baselined as well. Once a baseline is
>> >> >> saved,
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> doesn't get changed unless you re-baseline.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hope this helps.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Julie
>> >> >> "omar" <omar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:A66F2D4B-481E-4BAC-9D95-8394AD8FBC99@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> > Thank you for your reply. Is there no way to automatically save
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > baseline
>> >> >> > for the successor? The successor is kept for the executives to
>> >> >> > view
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > whatever changes an engineer makes in the predecessor would get
>> >> >> > updated
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > the successor.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > thank you
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "JulieS" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hi Omar,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Pardon me for jumping in.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It appears as though you haven't saved the baseline for the
>> >> >> >> successor
>> >> >> >> task.
>> >> >> >> Select the successor task and save the baseline
>> >> >> >> (Tools>Tracking>Save
>> >> >> >> baseline click "Selected task). You should now see the baseline
>> >> >> >> Start
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> Finish fields populate with dates.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Julie
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "omar" <omar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:FD1B1FA6-4A4C-4204-BCB4-D3026BD08694@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> > Ok here is what I am trying to do:
>> >> >> >> > I have two projects and I linked a task from one project to
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > other.
>> >> >> >> > In
>> >> >> >> > the predecessor, I changed the duration of the project and in
>> >> >> >> > turn
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > updated
>> >> >> >> > the finish date. I manually saved the baselines so that
>> >> >> >> > everything
>> >> >> >> > gets
>> >> >> >> > updated. On the Successor, only the start date and finish date
>> >> >> >> > gets
>> >> >> >> > updated
>> >> >> >> > but the baselines remains NA. Why is it like that?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > thank you
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Rod Gill" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> So what are you expecting to see and what isn't happening.
>> >> >> >> >> Please
>> >> >> >> >> explain
>> >> >> >> >> more what your question is about and how to reproduce it..
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Rod Gill
>> >> >> >> >> Project MVP
>> >> >> >> >> Visit www.msproject-systems.com for Project Companion Tools
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> more
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "omar" <omar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:DEACC6A6-D3D1-4D39-ABE0-5FCF699697CC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >> > When tasks between two projects, why doesnt all the custom
>> >> >> >> >> > fields
>> >> >> >> >> > show?
>> >> >> >> >> > (I
>> >> >> >> >> > mean some custom field stays NA)
>> >> >> >> >>
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