Re: Hod do I insert multiple sub projects?
- From: "Steve House [Project MVP]" <sjhouse.remove.this@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:46:29 -0400
I can't think of an easy way to have changes "ripple" across similar tasks at the various locations and if you think about it a bit you might agree with my feeling that you really wouldn't want them to anyway. Consider my example below anout installing routers at two locations, Main Street and First Street. Just because the install at Main Street would take 2 days, is there any reason to believe that First Street would also take two days? They might, but it's going to be purely coincidental if they do. Different places, different circumstances. At Main Street they're going to be shut down those dates anyway and so we can work undisturbed. But at First Street it is business as usual - employees and customers coming and going - and we have to work around the other activities going on there. As a result, getting exactly the same amount of work accomplished at First Street is going to take much longer than it did at Main Street.
In the trade-off between convenience and accuracy, you always should go for accuracy.
-- Steve House [MVP] MS Project Trainer & Consultant Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs
"Greg DePasse" <GregDePasse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:26B82805-E290-49B1-B4E1-8179CB3D0BAA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for the help. I understand what you are proposing, and as I think
about it more, I realize why I wanted to use copies of the same project - so
that I can change the tasks in one spot, it changes it across all of the
sites (whether I add/delete a task or change the duration of a task). Is
there a way to do this? Of course in an ideal world, this wouldn't be
necessary, but in the world of "you can do that in x minus y days, what's
that new schedule look like" this could save me a lot of time re-working
project.
Thanks, Greg
"Steve House [MVP]" wrote:
Each individual installation is not a copy of the SAME project, it may be a
replica of a prototype project involving similar work but each one is a
different project. "Install Router" at 1st Street Location will require
resource Bill to be there on Tuesday for 6 hours. "Install Router" at Main
Street location will require resource Fred to be there for 4 hours on
Wednesday. They're two totally different tasks, albeit with the same name
and very similar actions being performed.
You were talking about inserting "projects" into a master file. I usually
think of that as being the master plan with a number of different project's
on their plate. In your example, I'd call your "master project" the
Project and it includes 45 summary tasks describing the installation of the
equipment at each of 45 different locations. But I'd list every location as
its own entitity. You don't link one location to another unless they really
are contingent for some reason - perhaps you're setting up a network in a
star topology and the location(s) chosen as the centre of the star need to
have their equioment installed before the locations that connect to them so
you can properly test the locations on the radials as you set them up. But
other than that sort of thing, the 45 summary tasks describing each
location's installation will initially be in parallel. Then you can set the
Project start, assign your reources, and do resource leveling to generate
the final schedule eazy peazy, just like you want to. And far simpler both
to organize and track than doing master project / inserted subprojects. 45
summary tasks with a dozen or so subtasks in each isn't an especially large
project - I once read a Boeing 747 assembly plan was about 85000 tasks and
Project itself allows up to about 1 million tasks. 500 or so total tasks is
a piece of cake.
--
Steve House [MVP]
MS Project Trainer & Consultant
Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs
"Greg DePasse" <Greg DePasse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:95766BA8-2480-4EB2-8BE4-4E4C5798FA07@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Actually what is proposed is not a usable solution for me. I am trying > to
> schedule a master project (install equipment at 45 locations). Each
> location
> has the same set of tasks (perform site survey, order equipment, > install
> site
> 2 months after ordering equipment,...) and I don't really care when > they
> each
> start. I want to set a master start date and then let MS Project do
> resource
> leveling and figure out when I can plan to get to all the sites. I > also
> want
> to be able to change a duration or add a task in the "generic" schedule
> and
> have that change reflected in all the site schedules. Is there any way > to
> do
> this other than to not bother with a subproject and instead copy and > paste
> my
> core set of 6 tasks over and over (and hope I never need to make a > change
> to
> those 6 tasks)?
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
>
> "Steve House [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Make a copy of the file, change its start date, and insert the copy.
>> That's
>> not so farfetched as each iteration of the subproject really is a
>> separate
>> project in its own right with its own dstart, end, resources, budget,
>> etc.
>>
>> Steve House [MVP]
>>
>> "GG" <GG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:28CCD9DC-1DEB-4CBC-AC28-1BB350963D41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >I have a sub project that will be repeating for each phase and I >> >would
>> >like
>> > to insert this sub project into my master/consolidated project. But,
>> > Project
>> > 2003 reports to me that I can only insert only once. The actual >> > message
>> > I
>> > get
>> > is:
>> >
>> > "A project can be inserted only once in a consolidated project"
>>
>>
>>
.
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