Re: MS Project 2003 Demo
From: Arthur (arthur_at_eps.co.za)
Date: 02/15/04
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:56:01 +0200
Jason, I'd have replied privately to you instead of my post here, except
that you have made a statement that other readers in this forum might accept
as correct.
So as a (I hope) final clarification, what I meant when I said that P3 has
been "replaced", was that for a long time now it has been common knowledge
that aside from Service Packs (to enable it to run under newer OPs) it has
reached the end of its development. Although that doesn't mean that current
users are left without support, nor does it mean that there is not an
upgrade path (to one of the newer programs) for P3 users who have current
maintenance. And BTW, there is only one version of P3, the current version
3.1. If you are referring to P3e/c, then that is the (shortened) name of
one of the suites whose main program (Project Manager) is one of those
upgrade options. P3e/c is one if those newer Primavera developments, which
while being a "comfortable" upgrade for P3 users, are built on a new
platform and use technology of which P3 (despite its reputation and
acceptance) could not take advantage.
"Jason" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A204390-DEAC-4FCC-90B3-E5FD4B07A5B3@microsoft.com...
> P3 has not been replaced...in fact, it has 2 versions available. SureTrak
is extremely close in functionality to MSP...which must make MSP "mid-range"
also.
>
> I actually have no preference to either software yet...I am just trying to
make a decision based on the functionality of each. However, I do believe
that MS asking for $8 to send a demo CD that couldn't have cost them more
than $0.50 is a little rediculous.
>
> I came to this message board seeking the guidance/knowledge of some
professionals...obviously, it is not presently available.
>
> ----- Arthur wrote: -----
>
> Just in case a clarification is needed: When I referred to "high
end" I
> wasn't referring to P3. P3 has been replaced by newer products. And
the
> only download is the "mid-range" SureTrak.
>
> "Jason" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C5C90EEC-3F66-4EED-9567-D7A189216672@microsoft.com...
> > No, P3 does not have a demo version available for
download...however, it
> is not the comparable product to MS-P (as you stated). SureTrak is
more of
> a direct comparison to MS-P.
> >> Looks as though Microsoft did not do as thorough of a job as
Primavera in
> defining what was necessary for a demo product. Doesn't it make more
sense
> to have a non-expiring demo, but with a limited number of tasks?
This way
> many could share and evaluate the product, without the temptation to
> actually use it to plan a real project.
> >> Steve: Would you rather spend 1-2 hours downloading a demo, or
wait 5-10
> days for a CD in the mail?? Especially with the number of people who
have
> broadband access at home, work, or both.
> >> I guess my point is that Microsoft needs to learn how to discover
what the
> customers' real needs are....not just what MS 'believes' they are. I
have
> been an MS product user since the days that Office was purchased on
28 3.5"
> floppies, and would like to continue to be so....but not if their
> over-confidence in themselves causes them to loose sight of customer
> needs/wants.
> >> ----- Arthur wrote: -----
> >> Primavera's SureTrak Project Manager is available as a
"working
> model"
> > download. No functional limitations or timestamp, but a limit
to the
> number
> > of activities. Primavera's much more sophisticated (compared
with
> either
> > SureTrak or MS-P) "high-end" solutions do not have either
downloads
> or demo
> > CDs.
> >> "Steve House" <sjhouse.remove.this@to.send.hotmail.com> wrote
in
> message
> > news:4018e8b6$0$77257$45beb828@newscene.com...
> >> It's rather large to download. I don't know what the demo for
> Primavera
> >> contains but the Project demo is actually the full retail version
> of
> >> Project Standard. It has all the functionality of the full
product
> but
> >> times out after the evaluation period expires.
> >>> --
> >> Steve House
> >> MS Project MVP
> >> Visit http://www.mvps.org/project/faqs.htm for the FAQs
> >>>> "Jason" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:B62F8E92-11FE-4BE0-B283-E5278022E766@microsoft.com...
> >>> I see on the MS Project website that there is a demo version of
> 2003
> >> available, but that it must be mail ordered. Does anyone know
> where
> >> this demo might be downloaded instead? Wouldn't you think that
the
> >> largest software company would offer something other than snail
> >> mail?...especially when Primavera has demos available for
download.
> >>>
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