Re: Is WM5 worth trying on a Dell Axim x50v?



Clint,

You are correct in that you have to use AS4.x with WM5.

The WiFi sync was removed for security reasons. I hope it comes back too
but I'm not real confident it will.

Regards,

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"Clint" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I'll second Clinton's recommendation, but say that I haven't spent a lot
> of time in WM5 yet. I also upgraded once, then stepped back for awhile
> before hitting it again. My reason for upgrading wasn't necessarily the
> Persistant Storage, but a semi-related item. It's the way that WM5
> handles memory as a whole. In 2003, there's 3 types of memory; RAM, ROM
> (aka Built In Storage), and removable (SD, CF, etc). If you do default
> software installations, you'll clutter up your precious RAM, of which you
> only have 64MB, and about 25 to 30 MB usable after the OS and everything
> else is loaded. Then you have the ever popular memory slider, where you
> try to juggle the memory allocations. You can chose to install
> applications and data to the BIS (Built In Storage) or the SD cards, but
> it's the exception to every installation.
>
> With WM5, there are the same 3 memory types, but the handling of them is
> shuffled around. RAM is used strictly for executing applications, much
> like the RAM on your computer. ROM is used similar to a computer's HD;
> for storing data and applications. Now, you still only have 128MB of
> storage, so I usually install the apps there, and put the data on my SD
> card. When I get around to picking up a CF card, I'll probably use that
> for media (music, videos) simply because it's easier to get larger CF
> memory for cheap that SD memory (I've got a 1GB card). The default
> installation for new apps will be to ROM, and you can chose to install it
> to your removable storage if you wish.
>
> But in WM5, there is no option to install apps to RAM. There's also no
> memory slider (since you can't install to RAM). So you have your precious
> 64MB available for applications, all the time. Now, one thing some people
> notice is that WM5 uses more RAM for the OS itself. That's a tradeoff I'm
> willing to accept.
>
> One thing to note is that AFAIK, you MUST use ActiveSync 4.x for WM5
> sychronization. And in 4.x, you lose the ability to sync over the
> network. You can still sync via Bluetooth or IR, but IMHO, that's a
> kludge. I fought with my BT sync the other night, till my battery died.
> Sometimes it would work, sometimes not. The WiFi sync in AS 3.8 seemed to
> be much more robust. But MS says its a "feature" to have the WiFi sync
> removed, so I doubt we'll see it back anytime soon.
>
> I also still have issues of slowdown, for whatever reason. There's talk
> about the filesys.exe taking over the system every once in a while, which
> is causing this on other people's machines. If it doesn't get any worse,
> I'll probably stick it out, and hope for the next ROM upgrade from Dell to
> fix things. You might also want to check out www.aximsite.com, if you
> haven't already. Lot's of users in the same boat as you, and they're
> familiar with your machine.
> --
> Clint
> "Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]"
> <management@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Tony,
>>
>> I have a x50v that I have upgraded to WM5. The upgrade was a bit of a
>> challenge and at one point I ended up going back to WM2003. I stuck with
>> it though and improved my upgrade strategy and I've been happy since.
>> You can find out that upgrade strategy here:
>> http://groups.google.de/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc/browse_thread/thread/2002c23f72ec45e4/0615e89d6adde25d?lnk=st&q=%22pocket+plus%22+problem+%22windows+mobile+5.0%22&rnum=1&hl=de#0615e89d6adde25d
>>
>> Overall I've been happy with the upgrade and have actually found very few
>> applications that don't work well on WM5. The biggest problems seem to
>> be around PIM applications. I use Pocket Informant for example and I had
>> to get the free upgrade to make it happy.
>>
>> As to if it is a waste of time, that is tough to say. If you are happy
>> with WM2003 there is no reason to upgrade frankly. If however you want
>> things like Persistent Storage (which was my key driver) then it is worth
>> it. I've got an editorial on that at
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com/editorials/112005/wm5sold/default.asp.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]
>> Principle
>> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tony" <tony7_146879_5878@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:42l7s7F1joubpU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Ihave heard varying reports on the success of using Windows Mobile 5 on
>>> the
>>> Axim x50v. I think generally they hve been more negative than positive.
>>> Is
>>> there any reason to upgrade to WM5, or is it just not worth the hassle?
>>> Ihave also heard that a lot of software won't run in WM5.
>>>
>>> My system runs happily at present and works a treat, and also all the
>>> software I use runs well in 2003SE.
>>>
>>> Would I be wasting my time thinking about trying to upgrade to WM5 at
>>> the
>>> moment?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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