Re: Upgrade to Pocket 2003 Second Edition
From: AlanS (news_at_remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk)
Date: 10/26/04
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:09:44 +0100
"AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
news:clkorl$cos$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Don't behave like a donkey.
> I have not ever said anyone wanted it for free.
>
> - "Jim Kelly" <kellwood@compuREMOVE-TO-EMAIL-MEserve.com> wrote in message
> news:OGOgxWuuEHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Get off your donkey! No one here is insisting that it be free.
We
> > buy from reputable companies expecting them to redress any issues
> > that arise. End of story.
btw patches are issued for serious problems, not new operating systems. If
you have issues talk to your manufacturer. But MS don't give you a copy of
XP if ME has problems- it issues patches.
The issue is yours- check suitability of things before you buy. You bought
your house and complained to the builder because the newer ones include a
burglar alarm and an electric garage door and you 'old' house should have
them? Or the new model of car now includes central locking and the one you
bought didn't?
Get over yourself- you chose and bought the machine you aren't happy with-
moan at yourself. You bought it- take responsibility for your inadequate
choice, learn from the experience and next time only buy if it is what you
want, learn to ask relevant questions before you buy and moan.
> >
> >
> > "AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:clj44u$i7d$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >
> > "Jim Kelly" <kellwood@compuREMOVE-TO-EMAIL-MEserve.com> wrote in
> > message
> > news:OUAkYtpuEHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > There are many niggling problems with this technology which we
> > > have come to expect to be fixed by this 'upgrade' method - we
> > > are
> > > even prepared to pay for it, for which HP/Microsoft have
> > > typically included a few sweeteners 'enhancements' to help us
> > > swallow the costs.
> > >
> >
> > The 'old' OS still works. There will be new 'niggling problems'
> > with the new
> > system, just like desktop OS's. Manufacturers didn't give Win3.11
> > as free
> > fixes to Win 3.1, Win95 away as fixes to Win 3.11, Win98 as a fix
> > to Win 95,
> > Win98SE to Win98, Win ME as a fix to 98. Or XP to any of the
> > previous OS.
> > They release service packs or patches when needed.
> >
> > They don't give you the next OS for free.
> >
> >
> > > Many of us resent being lured into a throwaway society. All of
> > > us
> > > hate something that does not work properly. Many of these
> > > problems have been fixed. There has simply been a commercial
> > > decision made to deny them from us. A quick glance at the
> > > comments in the petition makes it clear that huge numbers of
> > > people are upset by this HP/Compaq folly. And each signatory
> > > probably represents 30 to 100 others who feel the same but are
> > > not aware of the petition existing, or who refrain from being
> > > part of it as is typical of any consumer complaint. They will
> > > vote with their feet.
> >
> > That figure is pure speculation, and people have just as much
> > right to say
> > that more people may be interested in the upgrade than actually
> > buy it once
> > they find out the cost, the changes, or the potential risks
> > involved in
> > changing. Around 1/3rd of those enquiring about the change
> > actually make it.
> > Or where is the proof to say otherwise?
> >
> >
> > The bottom line is find out before you buy, not after. If it
> > turns out you
> > where given false information regarding upgrades there are legal
> > redresses,
> > if you don't ask you got what you were presented with- no real
> > right for an
> > upgrade or to claim unfairness although you may feel it.
> > As you are so insistent about this, it was so important that you
> > surely got
> > proof of the promise of a future upgrade? If so make good on the
> > promise to
> > you. If you didn't have the forethought to get this promise you
> > got what you
> > ordered.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Sobering thoughts.
> > >
> >
> > Sobering in the sense of unreasonable claims and that customers
> > do not
> > properly research purchases before buying.
> >
> > > jk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:cl0pho$7be$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > No, I don't think it is disgusting.
> > >
> > > They do support the 2215, just don't offer an upgrade to the
> > > OS.
> > > It may not
> > > be worth them doing for technical reasons, or possibly low take
> > > up in the
> > > past.
> > >
> > > If a machine isn't what you want you have the choice NOT to buy
> > > it, but you
> > > did buy it. The issue here is your choice and buying decision
> > > if
> > > you bought
> > > something you don't want- HP didn't make you buy it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sean Adams" <sean_b_adams@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ePhgFzHtEHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Does anyone else feel that this is disgusting?
> > > >
> > > > Especially since HP are still selling the iPAQ's new (like
> > > > the
> > > > 2215) which
> > > > they have NO plans to support!
> > > >
> > > > Can MS not intervene here and issue a patch for just the
> > > > critical bits?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "ACE!!!" <ace_rules_bbs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Xns9585B06594085FearIsTheMindKiller@207.46.248.16...
> > > > > No, HP did not release SE as an upgrade at all and it
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > look
> > > > > like they will change their mind about it either.
> > > > > SE is only available on their new iPAQ line..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ~S.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > ======================
> > > > > ACE!!! a.k.a. ~S.
> > > > > OS. Osaris / Psion 5mx
> > > > > iPAQ 5550 / Nokia 6310
> > > > > http://www.xarane.com
> > > > > ======================
> > > > > Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Petition:
> > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/HPWMK3SE/petition.html
> > > > > 12491 Total Signatures on Friday, Oct. 8th 2004!
> > > > > HP 'Windows Mobile 2003 SE Support' Forum:
> > > > >
> > >
> http://forums.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=641503
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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