Re: Windows Media Player and SD card

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From: Sven ("Sven")
Date: 02/25/05 

Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:43:27 -0700

I think folks just need to understand that the DRM capabilities that are
tauted by many of the services, are only supported when using Media Player
10 on both the PC, and PPC. You have never been able to copy DRM music to
removable storage whether by AS connection or card reader. That was true of
WMP 9 and PMP 9, and is true of WMP 10 and PMP 9. I have no problem with
DRM music (Napster specifically) if I copy it to the SD card on my PPC's
with PMP 10, if I do so using the MP10 sync function. Still can't do it with
a card reader, and can't move that SD card to another PPC (MP10 or
otherwise) and have it play.

As ugly as it sounds, it keeps you from copying the files to a dozen SD
cards and giving them to all your friends. Face it. We have shown we cannot
be trusted, so steps are taken to 'encourage' us to be honest. Thank the few
(or possibly many) who have made this neccessary.

My recommendation? Buy it, Burn it, Rip it, Copy it where and how you like,
and get on with your listening.

"Brett" <Brett@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:557A07EF-50C9-488E-88BE-F596A55E8B4D@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have exactly the same situation with my Orange SPV M2000.
>
> I sync from media player 10 directly to the pocket pc as described by
> microsoft.
>
> If I sync my DRM protected music to the actual device (I have called it
> SPV_M2000) I have no problem playing (the device uses media player 9.0.1).
> If I sync to the Storage (the other bit set aside on the pocket pc) I get
> error code 80045006.
> If I sync to the Storage Card (not directly but as seen in MP10 as part of
> the pocket pc) I also get 80045006.
>
> I also cannot play DRM media on the pocket pc that has been directly
> synced
> to the SD card although it does play on my pc.
>
> I have noticed that the DRMv1PM.lic file gets written to the root
> directory
> of the pocket pc. I assume this is where MP9 checks when playing on the
> pocket pc. It also gets written to the root directory if I sync directly
> to
> an SD card.
> I assume that the reason I cannot read DRM music on my pocket pc that has
> been written directly to an SD card is because of this. However, I do not
> understand why I get the error 80045006 when trying to sync to the SD card
> whilst inserted in the pocket pc. This is EXACTLY what Microsoft says to
> do.
>
> Regards,
>
> Brett
>
>
> "scsppc" wrote:
>
>> Neil,
>>
>> Thanks for the info, it just does not work as advertised. I found this
>> link
>> on the Windows side of the house which describes the same problem
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/community/newsgroups/WindowsMedia/default.mspx?&query=80045011&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player&p=1&tid=f4b7f825-c4c2-4758-b1fb-cc0be38b3cf9
>>
>> I am going to try support via our TSC coordinator and see what happens.
>>
>>
>> "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:33:01 -0800, scsppc
>> > <scsppc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Neil,
>> > >
>> > >I copied the DRMv1PM.lic and wma file to the SD card via activesync
>> > >explore
>> > >feature. I get "The license for this file cannot be found". If
>> > >Walmart was
>> > >using the wrong license version, why would it work when executing from
>> > >RAM?
>> >
>> > Where on the SD card did you copy it ? Does it work if you move to the
>> > "My Documents" folder on the SD card ? If you don't have such a
>> > folder, create one and see what happens. It's only a gues though...
>> >
>> > The FAQ and readme have a few things to say (I was wrong about using a
>> > card reader),
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/windowsmobile/faq.aspx#4_2
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/windowsmobile/faq.aspx#5_3
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/windowsmobile/faq.aspx#5_5
>> >
>> > And it also mentions a desktop PC "security update" (DRM licence code
>> > change) which might be worth a try here :
>> > http://drmlicense.one.microsoft.com/Indivsite/en/indivit.asp
>> >
>> > Cheers - Neil
>> >
>> > >I also tried syncing from the PC to the SD card directly via USB. The
>> > >sync
>> > >happens, the file play under XP but same error as above when I try to
>> > >play it
>> > >on the PPC. When I plugged the card in the PC, I got the partnership
>> > >setup
>> > >and WMPInfo.xml got created on the card, but this does not happen with
>> > >the
>> > >PPC. Should it? This leads me to believe that maybe it has something
>> > >to do
>> > >with the WMP partnership with the PPC and the SD card. Is there a way
>> > >to
>> > >modify the partnership?
>> > >
>> > >I did not contact Walmart tech support, figuring they would probably
>> > >be
>> > >clueless. I also read posts that describe the same problem with MSN
>> > >music.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks for your help with this, I appreciate it.
>> > >
>> > >"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> OK so this is running the 1st edition of windows mobile according HP
>> > >> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/215348-64929-215381-314903-f60-430120-430121-405360.html
>> > >>
>> > >> I am wondering whether the license issued by WalMart is only going
>> > >> to
>> > >> work with media player 10 on WM2003 2nd edition - WM9 is provided on
>> > >> the 1st edition, which this device seems to have.
>> > >>
>> > >> Do (laughs) WalMart technical support have anything to say about the
>> > >> type of licence they provide for the tracks ?
>> > >>
>> > >> If all else fails the workaround is to burn tracks to a CD (removing
>> > >> the DRM) and then copy them back to the device by adding to your
>> > >> library from the CD (and then syncing to the memory card)
>> > >>
>> > >> Just so we don't go round the houses, are you able to confirm this
>> > >> remains a problem when you copy the file and licence directly to the
>> > >> SD card in a card reader (which in any case is usually faster ;-) ?
>> > >>
>> > >> HTH
>> > >> Cheers - Neil
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:51:04 -0800, scsppc
>> > >> <scsppc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >Neil,
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I run WM10 build 3802, installed the walmart plugin and purchased a
>> > >> >song, I
>> > >> >then proceeded to sync the song with my HP 6315 IPAQ with WM2003.
>> > >> >I was able
>> > >> >to sync to main memory successfully but I am not able to sync to
>> > >> >the SD card,
>> > >> >I get "unknown error". I have tried reformating the SD card,
>> > >> >syncing the SD
>> > >> >card directly on the PC, recreating the MediaPlayer partnership.
>> > >> >All to no
>> > >> >avail, Thank you for any help.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> The 'known problem' at that URL was on the WM10 Beta, which was
>> > >> >> fixed.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Are you experiencing problems which you can describe ? The post
>> > >> >> below
>> > >> >> seems to be missing any actual details of your problem report.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Cheers - Neil
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:05:05 -0800, scsppc
>> > >> >> <scsppc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> >It has been several months, has a workaround or fix been found
>> > >> >> >to this issue.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >"Chris" wrote:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> I finally found some info on this problem. It is a known
>> > >> >> >> problem and Microsoft is being very quiet about it.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Check out http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?
>> > >> >> >> topic_id=31725
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >

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