Re: give us VS .NET for (just) the PPC!
From: Andrew Kennard (a.kennard_at_btinternet.com)
Date: 06/30/04
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:52:40 +0100
eVC to be phased out ?? do you have any more on this ? Is it going to stop
when CE 5.0/PPC2005(?) devices start to appear. early next year. By then
will the Compact Framework be less compact by then ?
I've spent a long time developing an app in eVC3 and 4 and have just got
someting 'working'
It's bad enough the devices being discontined in favour of a new shape model
at a horific rate without the dev platform changing equaly as quickly
Andrew
"Almon B. Strowger" <strowger@NOSPAM.kook.com> wrote in message
news:e9Dh6jmXEHA.1144@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> Hi,
>
> Nonsense.
>
> It took time and money to develop IE too.
>
> M$ makes money on the OS itself.
>
> M$ had the proper strategy before with the free development tools,
> because the margin on mobile software is so low anyway. If you
> tip the scales and push out even more developers by forcing them to
> to pay an outrageous price for mobile development tools, there will
> be fewer choices in software titles for the consumer, and hence fewer
> sales of Pocket PCs, and hence less money for M$. Couple this with
> the reluctance of M$ to continue to support some of the "legacy"
> technologies such as eVB, you create fewer titles at an even more
> rapid rate. So it's really penny-wise and pound-foolish for M$ to do
> this. Now let's couple this with the lessons learned from java. How
> many java applications do you see out there used in the real world on
> desktop machines? Not many. How about on mobile devices? Lots!
> Java has found its niche in mobile devices and is well established there.
> .NET [CF] other than for web services could over time with its basically
> ante-upped technology, take away the entrenched position that java now
> holds. So I'd say it's also strategically better for M$ to offer the
mobile
> development tools for free or nearly free.
> I suspect that M$'s decision is based more on legal reasons,
> eg. settlements / agreements against product dumping.
>
> My $0.02
>
> Almon B. Strowger
> KOOK Pocket Software
>
>
> "Christopher Kurtis Koeber" <c_koeber@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:OENrQ$lXEHA.2408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > That's a noble cry and all but where's the money for Microsoft? All in
all
> > there are probably about 10,000 developers out there working solely for
> the
> > Pocket PC (And that is a generous number). Let's say you charge $250.00
> > dollars for the program. That equates to around $2.5 million in sales.
> That
> > sound great at first, but think you have to factor in marketing, people
> that
> > will choose other programming software like the one Floyd, and the cost
of
> > development and maintenance. The actual sales then become around 1.5
> million
> > and the profits will be around $100,000 , if that much. Microsoft, or
any
> > company for that matter, will not put in that much effort for a crappy
> > return like that.
> >
> > Christopher
> > "TerryB" <TerryB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:440BAE89-A8F7-4F33-B2D0-05DE14C82117@microsoft.com...
> > > I need to say this: I really don't like the fact that Microsoft makes
> > Visual Basic developers shell out around $1,000 to get "the whole
> enchilada"
> > i.e. Visual Studio .NET Pro in order to write apps for the PocketPC,
when
> > all we really need is VB .NET and the Compact Framework.
> > > The other alternative for me (the one that's turning my head black and
> > blue as I bang it against the wall in utter frustration) is the
> unsupported,
> > clumsy and featureless eVB 3.0 which as we all know, has nothing in
common
> > with other Microsoft Visual Basic products.
> > > So I'm asking you, Microsoft, when are you going to remember your
roots
> > and support the little guy, not the corporate giants? Just someone at
home
> > working by herself to make a little app for taking on the road.
> > > PLEASE give us something so we can write apps for *just* mobile
devices.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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