Re: Two Outlooks on one machine
From: Pat Garard (apgarardATbigpondPERIODnetPERIODau)
Date: 06/03/04
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 08:35:43 +1000
G'Day all,
When this individual attains a satisfactory standard in english expression,
writing style and spelling, s/he will earn my respect as _perhaps_ being
worthy to set standards for me. Until then .....
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How do I quote correctly [i]on Usenet? - Quoting and Answering[.]
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2. Quoting and Answering[.]
2.1 How much should I quote?
[It is not necessary to quote the entire text of the person you respond to].
A [quoting] [should always and first of all] clarify the context, enabling
the reader to understand the flow of the thread. A quoting is not [ment] to
re-post the previous article.
[sentence ends with preposition] [quote] [Yuk!] [[meant]intended]
In general, it is [completely sufficient] [to only leave] that part of the
message to which [one] refers. People reading the thread either know the
context of the discussion or are able to find the context by using the
References to read the entire thread. In order [to fully understand] the
message it is quite often necessary to read the previous articles anyway,
since one message leads to another and sometimes [can only be understood]
when read in context.
[tautology] [to leave only] [either "you" or "one" throughout] [split
infinitive ] [can be understood only]
By quoting only the necessary parts, the [reading-flow] is simplified [a
lot], especially with respect to long articles. [Big] quotations often make
it more difficult to find [the actual new text]. It is not uncommon that
people do not [even] read the entire article - who wants to read the entire
text *again* in search of something new?
[....yawn....................]
On the other hand, the quotation should not be so short that it is unclear
[to what the author is referring to], or so that it may even appear in a
totally different light.
[.....wowwwwww..................]
2.2 What should not be quoted?
[Text to which you are not responding should be deleted.] This way [you]
make it easier for others to read your response without having to reread old
text. [Also,] you save [tons] of bandwidth on [thousands] of servers.
[eg Do not include/quote text that ...] ["you" or "one" throughout] [...in
{lots} of domains, and
{heaps} of networks, and {squillions} of.......]
In general, signatures have nothing to do with the context of the article,
[and usually [you] are not going to refer] to the poster's signature.
[Therefore, signatures should always be deleted.] A good newsreader offers
[the possibility to do this automatically] - [of course only provided] the
signature [was] separated from the text with the correct delimiter (two
dashes and a space on a single line).
[and one is not usually referring] [Signatures ought not be included
therefore] [the opportunity for this to occur automatically] [provided only
that] [was/is - consistent tense]
One becomes weary.........
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.........of course You (all) may adopt these "standards" as you
please...........
It is nice to have an (historic) "audit" trail, and perhaps a wider
standard, one that includes email for example, would be useful.
For myself, a "watched" message is one in which I have developed an
interest. I wait, with a degree of anticipation, for the next instalment. I
like to get the "meat" first, without again trawling through yesterdays
leftovers.
Anyone for Gravy?
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Regards,
Pat Garard
Australia
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People reading the thread either know the context of the discussion or are
able to find the context by using the References to read the entire thread.
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My point exactly!
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