Re: Defeating information bars/security warnings in links from Pow

Well, as far as I'm concerned, it's kind of like talking to a brick wall when it comes to Microsoft and "security," but a couple of the MVPs are masochists and keep trying. :-) I don't know who mandates this stuff, but I think they've gone overboard with protecting users from themselves, especially when I'm the presenter as well as the creator, so I know darned good and well where all the files came from!

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"Paul G" <PaulG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:624FACA1-E46A-4877-98E3-DD79C3DE6E98@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks Echo. It really is a strange oversight. Do you happen to know if
anyone has actually talked to Microsoft about it? And if so, what Microsoft
had to say? Would be interesting to know. In the meantime, my workaround
does work, however, so I'm just going to quickly trigger the security warning
when I'm setting up and click on "Enable all". After that, they'll all come
up as smooth as can be and the problem will be invisible. I hope.

"Echo S" wrote:

You bring up a good point, and one that's frustrating to many of us. The
other Office apps make use of the "trusted folders" location, but I see
absolutely no benefit to it for PPT users. And it really honks me off. We
get stuck with some stupid security warning in the middle of
presentations -- you'd think the "trusted locations" would help overcome
that, but it doesn't seem to at all.

Grrr.

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"Paul G" <PaulG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F5D1AEDA-A19A-4AF8-9AD6-15D80D849A18@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Bingo! Almost. Thanks, Lucy, I followed Mark's instructions at the > link
> and
> the file now opens without the Information bar and its attendant > security
> warning, but.....before the file opens I still get a security warning
> telling
> me that Windows has "blocked the ability to run an external program
> automatically". This warning then offers me 3 options: Enable All,
> Enable
> or Disable. If I choose Enable All, the htm file, my DVD player and
> another
> mpg app all will open without difficulty during the course of my
> presentation, but ONLY during the current one. Next time I open
> PowerPoint
> it has forgotten all about my Enable All command and I am forced to go
> through the same drill all over again. Which means that I have to do > a
> false start of the show in private every time I do a presentation just > to
> get
> past this security warning. (Obviously I don't want the security > warning
> popping up in the middle of a presentation.)
>
> Help tells me that in order to open such programs regularly they have > to
> be
> in a folder added to the "trusted locations" list in the "Trust > Center".
> This I have done, but it seems to mean nothing. I still get this > warning.
> Can this be right? Will Vista not permit me to select trusted external
> programs and then reliably run them? I can obviously now work around > this
> final hurdle by "Enabling all" in private each time I open PowerPoint.
> But I
> can't imagine that it was the intent that I should have to do that. > What
> am
> I missing here? Can we defeat this one, too?
>
> P.S. To Steve: It is not practical to recreate the htm file in > question.
> And with regard to the other browsers, since this is now seemingly a
> PowerPoint /Windows blocking issue, that would seem unwarranted. Is > that
> right?
>
> "Lucy Thomson (aka aneasiertomorrow)" wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul
>>
>> This is a long rambling story that may be irrelevant, but stick with >> it
>> ;-)
>>
>> Ages ago I designed my website using Expression Web and when I viewed >> it
>> online I got no warnings, but when I previewed it through Expression >> Web
>> I
>> got a blocked content warning. I posted in the newsgroup and got a >> reply
>> about it being normal behaviour. I can't now find the thread but look >> at
>> Mark
>> Fitzpatrick's reply here:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.expression.webdesigner&mid=84396337-90a5-4679-9e26-cd6797198a48&sloc=en-us
>>
>> I hope that helps and sorry it's not the answer you were after :-(
>>
>> Lucy
>> -- >> MOS Master Instructor
>> www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Paul G" wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry to report that using the Hyperlink approach does not solve the
>> > problem.
>> > In fact it is marginally worse. When I use Hyperlink rather than >> > the
>> > Action
>> > command I first get a security warning telling me that hyperlinks >> > can
>> > be
>> > dangerous and when I click on "yes" to continue, the htm file opens,
>> > but
>> > minimized, so if I am actually running the show, there is no >> > indication
>> > whatsoever that the htm file has actually opened. And in addition >> > to
>> > that,
>> > the same ActiveX Information bar and security warning is active in >> > the
>> > minimized window anyway. No gain. Some loss. Frustrating. If you
>> > can see
>> > a way to solve this when you get in IE7 I will be forever grateful.
>> >
>> > "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I don't have a way of checking this with IE7 immediately to hand, >> > > but
>> > > with
>> > > IE6/PPT2007/WinXP SP2, it works if I add a hyperlink to an HTML >> > > file
>> > > rather than a
>> > > Run Program link/action setting. Give that a shot and if it >> > > doesn't
>> > > fly, I'll fire
>> > > up a machine with IE7 on it.
>> > >
>> > > Oh, and if that doesn't work, is a VBA solution acceptable?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > In article <D98234C0-8E2D-447A-AA60-16F6AD73DDB0@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, >> > > Paul
>> > > G wrote:
>> > > > Hi. Thanks for your interest. I am invoking it with "Run >> > > > program"
>> > > > and I
>> > > > show a path to the file, which is an htm file. FYI: I have >> > > > gone
>> > > > into
>> > > > PowerPoint Options, Trust Center, Trust Center Settings where I >> > > > did
>> > > > the
>> > > > following: unchecked the "Check Microsoft Office documents, >> > > > etc."
>> > > > under
>> > > > Privacy Options; added the path of the htm file to "Trusted
>> > > > Locations"; and
>> > > > selected "Enable all controls without restrictions and without
>> > > > prompting"
>> > > > under ActiveX Settings. Hope this helps you help me, Steve. >> > > > And
>> > > > thanks
>> > > > again for your interest.
>> > > >
>> > > > "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > In article >> > > > > <B2C04BFC-5624-4519-8D95-A9C323F89A8F@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>> > > > > Paul G wrote:
>> > > > > > Help!!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I have a mock web site on my hard drive for use in a >> > > > > > business
>> > > > > > presentation.
>> > > > > > I have a shortcut on my desktop to this mock web site. I >> > > > > > have
>> > > > > > IE7 configured
>> > > > > > so the "site" comes up and the ActiveX controls and scripts >> > > > > > run
>> > > > > > fine without
>> > > > > > any information bar or security warnings.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > But when I call that same "site" up in IE7 within my >> > > > > > PowerPoint
>> > > > > > presentation
>> > > > > > (Office 2007/Vista Ultimate) using an "action" setting, I >> > > > > > get
>> > > > > > an ActiveX
>> > > > > > information bar and security warning. I have done >> > > > > > everything I
>> > > > > > can think of
>> > > > > > to try to defeat them, including all the recommended
>> > > > > > "trustworthy" settings,
>> > > > > > but still the ActiveX information bar comes up. And when I
>> > > > > > turned off ALL
>> > > > > > the security settings associated with ActiveX, I get an
>> > > > > > information bar
>> > > > > > warning me that I have done THAT.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > How can I get this mock site to come up clean within >> > > > > > PowerPoint
>> > > > > > the way it
>> > > > > > does from the shortcut on the desktop? I will be eternally
>> > > > > > grateful for the
>> > > > > > magic solution. Thanks...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > IE may be smart enough to work out whether it was invoked by >> > > > > the
>> > > > > user or by an
>> > > > > application and if the latter, tries to "protect" you.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > How exactly are you invoking it? Which action setting are you
>> > > > > using?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----------------------------------------
>> > > > > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>> > > > > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
>> > > > > PPTools: www.pptools.com
>> > > > > ================================================
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > -----------------------------------------
>> > > Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>> > > PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
>> > > PPTools: www.pptools.com
>> > > ================================================
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >


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