Re: Bug? - Compress picture in PowerPoint 2007...

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Hm. Perhaps it's because the compress pictures feature is on by default in
PPT -- which means that when you save the file the first time, the pictures
are automatically compressed and so if you're checking the file size after
the first save, then sure, you won't see a change between that and
compressing and saving again. :-)

(Unfortunately, this still doesn't explain the original poster's problem
with OLE objects and the different behavior in 2007 and 2003. Nuts.)

Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed?
Why?)

<chuckle> Totally understandable; compress pictures is well hidden in 2003
and previous versions.

Round-tripping is not a bad idea, but you want to be aware that
round-tripping in PPT 2007 won't necessarily preserve everything: the "save
as html" hasn't changed since the 2002/2003 days, but PPT 2007 has changed
dramatically. (Which is probably why the pix come back in the middle of the
page. That's not too bad, but there may be worse things happening to other
slides....)

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


"aneasiertomorrow" <aneasiertomorrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Hi all

I'm fascinated by this discussion and have been off experimenting...

Compress pictures doesn't do a thing for me in 2007. Not a thing. Same
file
size, everything. Pictures inserted through insert -> picture.
Compress pictures does work in 2003 (why did I not know that existed?
Why?)
but not as well as cut -> eidt -> paste special -> jpeg which results in a
file size 1/4 of that using compress pictures
Cut -> Home -> Paste -> Paste -> Special -> jpeg works a treat in 2007
If compress pics works for you in 2007 in files without the OLE objects
might round-tripping work? Complete guess but might be worth a try:
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00526.htm

Not a perfect solution as it's a bit of a hassle but once you get into the
swing of it it doesn't take long. Oh and the pics always come back to the
centre of the slide but you can't have everyting.

Lucy
--
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au

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"Echo S" wrote:

Sounds to me as if previous versions of PPT will compress OLE objects,
whereas PPT 2007 won't. To tell the truth, I didn't realize the earlier
versions would do this on their own.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


"Boris" <Boris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks Geetesh.
But as the files are really jpg files (with a container to say they are
Photo Editor Objects wrapped around them), and given that Photo Editor
is
a
Microsoft program issued with previous releases of Office, should not
PowerPoint have recognized the tru format of the images and allowed
them
to
be compressed? Indeed, I have just tried the same file on a machine
with
Office XP, on which I have removed the Photo Editor program. PowerPoint
XP
is
happy to compress the files, and, when it does so, it is also cleaver
enough
to correct the files back to being "pictures" rather than "objects"...
So,
it
would appear that the issue is not related to the presence or absence
of
Photo Editor but purely one either of PowerPoint being a bit slow on
the
uptake in recognizing the files correctly or of Microsoft being
deliberately
difficult - or perhaps it is an oversight that can (should?) be
fixed...
Best wishes, Boris.

"Geetesh Bajaj" wrote:

PowerPoint's compression feature works on inserted pictures. And since
PowerPoint 2007 had no way of communicating wth a Photo Editor object
(Photo
Editor was not installed on that system), it could do nothing about
the
file
size.


--
Geetesh Bajaj
Author of Cutting Edge PowerPoint for Dummies
http://www.cuttingedgeppt.com





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"Boris" <Boris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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This query - or perhaps bug (or intercomatability problem) report
refers
to
PowerPoint 2007 and files created in earlier version of PowerPoint.
I came across a file, created, I think, in PowerPoint 2000, that was
too
large for its own good (30 slides, 60 Mb!) and tried, in my version
of
PowerPoint 2007, to reduce the file size to something reasonable by
using
the
compress picture option on the save as tools options. This did
nothing
and
so
I started experimenting with the file in more detail but soon gave
up
and
went to find a computer with PowerPoint 2002 which immediately
compressed
the
file to less than 1/50th (1.3 Mb) of its original file.
The cause, as far as I can work out... It would appear that the
original
file had all the (jpg) images inserted form Microsoft Photo Editor
and
these
are therefore coming up as Microsoft Photo Editor Objects in
PowerPoint.
PowerPoint 2002 still allows these files to be worked with and
compressed
but
PowerPoint 2007 does not bring up the "picture" menu (bringing up
the
"drawing tools" menu instead) and does not allow these files to be
compressed
- even individually! As I do not have Photo Editor installed on my
machine,
nothing happens when I select the "convert" option from "Photo
Editor
Photo
Object" (on the context menu for the object) (though, as an aside, I
have
just checked on the machine with PowerPoint 2002 and Photo Editor
and
there
the convert just brings up a convert menu that does not allow me to
convert
to any other format either)...
Is this not a bug or incompatibility? PowerPoint 2002 allows these
images
to
be compressed and therefore it would appear that this is a
legitimate
operation for the format in question but it is obviously not
recognised
by
PowerPoint 2007... Is there any other way around this problem (apart
from
not
sing Photo Editor to insert the images)? I can see it may come up in
future
and I cannot guarantee always having access to a machine with
previous
versions of the program running on it.
Any suggestions o comments would be gratefully received.
Best wishes, Boris.









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