Re: Projection Problems

From: Troy _at_ TLC (_at_)
Date: 03/03/04 

Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:15:04 -0800

Okay, I think we are on the right track. You have definitely tried many
things and have given lots of detailed information to work with.

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> -"Presented by a speaker (full screen)
This is the 'normal' presentation mode, used at least 90% of the time.
Everything discussed here is based on this mode.
> -"Browsed by an individual (window)"
Never really played with this one, so I do not have a good definition of it
right now.
> -"Browsed at a kiosk (full screen)"
Overrides some functions, especially useful when mandatory viewer input is
needed to advance slides, etc.

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> The only thing that worked for me was "presented by a speaker (full
> screen)" and "show on secondary monitor" under "set up show." No other
> combination worked at all.
Sounds like you are getting things figured out. Yes, use the "presented by a
speaker (full screen)" setting. No do not use "show on secondary monitor"
rather set this to "Primary Monitor." Now where the presentation is shown is
dependent on your display settings (outside PPT). If you have an extended
desktop setup, the presentation will only display on the primary/laptop
monitor. If you have a mirrored setup the presentation will display on both
laptop and projector (in show mode). If the secondary monitor is not active,
presentation will only display on local monitor.

Laptop should have a key combination to toggle through display modes (off,
mirror, extended). What brand/model laptop are you running?

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> Now under the above-mentioned configuration of options, starting the
> presentation by hitting F5 generated a second, minimized PP program
> window in the taskbar (to run the presentation, which did project)
> as if one had started the program twice and had two running
> simultaneously.
>
> The first and original window from which I generated the second by
> hitting F5 always remained in edit mode. I had to depress the second
> minimized copy of the program in the task bar and use the arrow keys to
> advance slides -- I could not see the presentation on my laptop monitor,
> and this prevented me from doing things like hitting hyperlinks (because
> I couldn't see a cursor on the projection).
Still not clear what is occurring here. But rather than focus on the exact
details here, I believe if the PPT and display setting are configured as
listed above, this issue is eliminated - and you can use hyperlinks because
the presentation is in show mode on both local monitor and projector.

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> If I chose "presented by an individual" and "show on primary monitor"
> I could see the presentation on my laptop monitor, but _it would not be
> projected_ (only the desktop wallpaper would be projected). Obviously
> it wasn't a projector hookup issue, since it would indeed project with
> different ("secondary monitor") settings.
This tells me that the computer is configured with an extended desktop,
which we should have eliminated with the above configuration.

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> Now Bill mentioned he doesn't like mirror-monitors, but prefers to have
> the laptop monitor "unfrozen" by the presentation to run searches, etc.
> Is there any way that I can toggle the presentation "on" to hit
> hyperlinks etc., and then toggle it "off" my laptop monitor so I can run
> searches etc. without projecting them? This is my uber-question, and
> what I would really like to know.
I personally prefer a mirrored setup. It eliminates a huge number of
technical issues as well as just plain mistakes (ie. exiting presentation,
having other application dialog boxes pop up on the projected screen, etc.)

But to the answer to the uber-question is using an add-in (works in PPT
2000-2002-2003) called PowerShow. Check here for the details:
http://officeone.mvps.org/powershow/powershow.html

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> By not clicking this, both monitors should "mirror" each other, if I am
> understanding (i.e., I haven't seen any mirror command under either
> "set up show" or monitor "display properties." BTW: I am using the XP
> OS on the laptop).
Correct. By NOT clicking "extend my windows desktop onto this monitor" you
are telling the graphic card to run a mirrored output. Note: if you were
running an extended desktop and then uncheck this option, the result will
most likely be deactivating your secondary monitor altogether. Not a
problem, just a function of most graphics cards. Say Apply/Okay and then
using the laptop function keys toggle the secondary monitor on again (or
activate by going through the advanced display options - my preference).

Side note: which manufacturer of graphics card does the computer run (ATI,
Nvidia, Intel Extreme, etc.). Go to CONTROL PANEL >> DISPLAYS >> SETTINGS
tab >> ADVANCED button >> ADAPTOR tab >> listed under Adaptor Type.

Hope that provides some additional information and allows you to
troubleshoot. 

-- 
Best Regards,
Troy Chollar
TLC Creative Services, inc.
troy at tlccreative dot com
"Ashurbanipal" <ashurbanipal@canada.com> wrote in message
news:4044A154.4167@canada.com...
> Troy @ TLC wrote:
> > SLIDESHOW >> SETUP SHOW >> have dropdown "show on" dialog set to
> > PRIMARY (not SECOND PLUG & PLAY MONITOR).
> --
> > In either version of PPT, you should set the computer's display
> > settings to mirror output vs. extended desktop (with your monitors set
> > to mirror PPT is not able to do anything but show the presentation on
> > both monitors)
>
> Aha... this is exactly what I want.
>
> Can you explain briefly the purposes of the "show type" options?
>
> -"Presented by a speaker (full screen"
> -"Browsed by an individual (window)"
> -"Browsed at a kiosk (full screen)"
>
> hat I was trying to say: I tried all of these "show type" settings under
> "set up show" with different options from the "show on" drop down menu
> (including show on "primary") without success.  As suspected, it has
> something to do with multi-monitor setup...
>
> The only thing that worked for me was "presented by a speaker (full
> screen)" and "show on secondary monitor" under "set up show."  No other
> combination worked at all.
>
>
> > - Also, you wrote, "when I depress the minimized second running copy
> > of the program..." Could you further explain, I am not certain what is
> > happening here (you have two presentations open and are switching
> > between them?)
>
> Now under the above-mentioned configuration of options, starting the
> presentation by hitting F5 generated a second, minimized PP program
> window in the taskbar (to run the presentation, which did project)
> as if one had started the program twice and had two running
> simultaneously.
>
> The first and original window from which I generated the second by
> hitting F5 always remained in edit mode.  I had to depress the second
> minimized copy of the program in the task bar and use the arrow keys to
> advance slides -- I could not see the presentation on my laptop monitor,
> and this prevented me from doing things like hitting hyperlinks (because
> I couldn't see a cursor on the projection).
>
> If I chose "presented by an individual" and "show on primary monitor"
> I could see the presentation on my laptop monitor, but _it would not be
> projected_ (only the desktop wallpaper would be projected).  Obviously
> it wasn't a projector hookup issue, since it would indeed project with
> different ("secondary monitor") settings.
>
> Sorry for my initial lack of clarity.  I hope this will help describe my
> exact problem.  Any advice to fix this is greatly appreciated.
>
> Now Bill mentioned he doesn't like mirror-monitors, but prefers to have
> the laptop monitor "unfrozen" by the presentation to run searches, etc.
> Is there any way that I can toggle the presentation "on" to hit
> hyperlinks etc., and then toggle it "off" my laptop monitor so I can run
> searches etc. without projecting them?  This is my uber-question, and
> what I would really like to know.
>
> Also: are the settings to do all that different in PP2000/PP-XP?  I
> strangely recall PP2000 be much more "plug and play."
>
>
> > - Go to your computers display settings >> SETTINGS tab >> make sure
> > monitor two is set to mirror/not have 'extended desktop'  or 'extend
> > my windows desktop onto this monitor' activated (this setting varies
> > depending on the graphics card in your computer, and sometimes based
> > on its capabilities).
>
> Do not click "extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor," gotcha.
> (Sometimes I did, sometimes I didn't, didn't seem to affect the
> problem?)
>
> By not clicking this, both monitors should "mirror" each other, if I am
> understanding (i.e., I haven't seen any mirror command under either
> "set up show" or monitor "display properties."  BTW: I am using the XP
> OS on the laptop).
>
> Thanks much for your assistance,
> -A