Re: Why can't I update office

From: Glenn (Glenn_at_hotmail.edu)
Date: 12/27/04

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    Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 21:29:08 -0500
    
    
    

    Bill wrote:
    > Milly, I have emailed forever with noo reply. I am in the Service stationed
    > in Germany, so can't do it by phone.
    >
    > Bill
    >
    > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
    >
    >
    >>So, have either of you taken the printed advice and contacted Microsoft
    >>Product Support Services for assistance?
    >>
    >>--
    >>Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
    >>
    >>Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
    >>the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
    >>account will be deleted without reading.
    >>
    >>After furious head scratching, sws asked:
    >>
    >>| I have same problem and have gotten little or no answers. Any luck
    >>| with you?
    >>|
    >>| "Bill" wrote:
    >>|
    >>|| I have tried about everything to get my Office 2003 to update
    >>|| automatically, but it won't. The detect and reoair fuction doesn't
    >>|| work either. I have downloaded the LIS Tool, but that doesn't work.
    >>|| When I try to install or repair from the original disk, it says; the
    >>|| installation source for this product is not available. Verify that
    >>|| the sourse exist and that you can access it. I don't know how to
    >>|| verify if it is there. The Office 2003 I have is one I purchased.
    >>|| I also get the message: The Office Update site is unable to check
    >>|| for updates on this computer. This may be happening because of one
    >>|| of the following reasons:
    >>||
    >>|| You do not have administrative privileges for this computer.
    >>|| There is a network problem and the detection catalog used by the
    >>|| Office Update site failed to download. Go back to the Downloads home
    >>|| page and try running detection again.
    >>|| Windows Installer patch files (.MSP files) from previously applied
    >>|| Office updates are missing from the \Windows\Installer hidden
    >>|| directory on your computer. MSP files are stored on your computer
    >>|| after update installation completes because they need to be
    >>|| referenced for future update operations. If the files are missing
    >>|| you will not be able to apply Office updates. You may also be unable
    >>|| to uninstall Office products as a result of the same problem. Please
    >>|| contact Microsoft Product Support Services for assistance.
    >>|| You installed Office updates in the past and then upgraded from
    >>|| Windows Installer version 1.0 to Windows Installer version 1.1. For
    >>|| more information see the KB article Windows Installer May Prompt for
    >>|| Install Source if Unavailable.
    >>||
    >>|| I need Help.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    Try this it should help
    Glenn

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    From: "ChristineB" <ChristineB@discussions.microsoft.com>
    Subject: RE: Solutions to Office Update Error Messages!
    Date: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:09 PM

    Hi - sorry it didn't work for you - it took me several frustrating attempts
    at everything MS recommended before this solution worked for me. I can't
    understand why Microsoft are not addressing this issue. Having to manually
    delete registry entries is not an acceptable solution. Hope you manage to
    resolve your problem - can't suggest anything else I'm afraid!
     

    "bastetm2" wrote:

    > Thanks for the lengthy post; however, it didn't work for me. I still cannot
    > update, as it still tells me I need admin status! I sure hope someone has the
    > latest info to fix this!
    >
    > "ChristineB" wrote:
    >
    > > Like most people on this site I have experienced the frustration of the
    > > update error messages and having now resolved (hopefully!) the problem
    > > thought I would share this on the site. I am sure there must be many others
    > > about to fling their PC out the window!
    > >
    > > I had tried the Microsoft suggested remedies of deleting opuc.dll, clearing
    > > temp files, allowing security access etc. I had installed, reinstalled and
    > > reinstalled again, after deleting the files recommended, and downloaded and
    > > run the Cleanup Utility to no avail. The "patch" problem was resolved
    > > enabling me to download updates manually but that is no help if you cannot
    > > find out what updates you need!
    > >
    > > Basically the solution seems to be that you (a) need to uninstall all office
    > > programmes (b) delete specific registry entries and (c) reinstall office but
    > > ensuring that you install Office before installing any additional office
    > > products such as Viso, OneNote, InfoPath etc. I was not happy about editing
    > > the registry but this did resolve the issue. It is quite complicated and it
    > > is essential to ensure you create a restore point first just in case! Also
    > > you do need to restart the computer in order for everything to take effect.
    > >
    > > I have copied the relevant posting below - with thanks to Mark who posted
    > > this - it's dated 17 August if anyine wants to find it!
    > >
    > > Hope this helps someone out there!
    > > Christine
    > >
    > > _________________________________
    > >
    > > I had the same problem about the .MSP files or such. I
    > > contacted support and this is the solution that they sent
    > > me. I finished performing it last night and now I can
    > > update, thankfully!
    > > Here is the post for your references:
    > > >>
    > > Dear Mark,
    > >
    > > Thank you for your inquiry regarding Microsoft Office
    > > Setup and for choosing Microsoft Online Support. My name
    > > is Jack and I will be assisting you with this service
    > > request.
    > >
    > > According to the case log, I understand this issue to be:
    > > You cannot check for Office updates online and get the
    > > following Web page:
    > >
    > > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?
    > > assetid=FX010404541033
    > >
    > > We will work together on this issue throughout the course
    > > of this case. If I have misunderstood your concern,
    > > please let me know.
    > >
    > > Based on my experience, this issue is mostly caused
    > > by .MSP files are corrupted or missing.
    > >
    > > Windows Installer patch files (.MSP files) are stored on
    > > your computer after update installation completes because
    > > they need to be referenced for future update operations.
    > > If the files are missing you will not be able to apply
    > > Office updates. You may also be unable to uninstall
    > > Office products as a result of the same problem.
    > >
    > > To resolve the issue, we need to manually delete all the
    > > registry keys for Office. I understand the whole process
    > > can be time consuming but they are crucial for us to
    > > effectively resolve this situation. I have handled a
    > > number of similar cases in the past, and we have solved
    > > the problem in the manner I have suggested. Please work
    > > with me by trying the troubleshooting steps and we will
    > > resolve this problem together. Your time and efforts are
    > > greatly appreciated. To do this, follow the steps below:
    > >
    > > NOTE:
    > >
    > > If you have Project 2003 installed, please do not perform
    > > the following steps!
    > >
    > > Please ensure you have the Office installation CD on your
    > > hand before performing following steps.
    > >
    > > Warning: The following steps contain information about
    > > modifying the registry. If you use Registry Editor
    > > incorrectly, you may cause serious problems that may
    > > require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft
    > > cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result
    > > from using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry
    > > Editor at your own risk.
    > >
    > > NOTE: The following steps will not hurt or delete your
    > > email data and Office documents.
    > >
    > > (a) Quit all running programs, especially the Antivirus
    > > and firewall application.
    > >
    > > (b) Click Start menu-> Run, type "regedit" (without the
    > > quotation marks) in the Open box and press Enter.
    > >
    > > (c) Delete the following registry keys if they exist:
    > >
    > > How to locate a Key
    > >
    > > For example, HKEY_CURRENT_USER is the key, and everything
    > > that follows the first backslash (\) is the subkey.
    > >
    > > The keys and subkeys are listed in a folder tree in the
    > > left pane of Registry Editor. As in Windows Explorer, in
    > > the left pane of Registry Editor, if a key or subkey
    > > contains subkeys, a plus sign (+) appears next to the
    > > folder icon for that key. If you click the plus sign, the
    > > folder expands, and subfolders, representing the subkeys,
    > > appear under it.
    > >
    > > To locate the registry key "
    > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office ", follow
    > > these steps:
    > >
    > > 1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then
    > > click OK.
    > >
    > > 2. Expand HKEY_CURRENT_USER,
    > >
    > > 3. Expand SOFTWARE to expand it.
    > >
    > > 4. Expand Microsoft.
    > >
    > > 5. Click Office.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > You can refer to the jackshuai01.jpg attachment for more
    > > information on how to expand the key.
    > >
    > > (NOTE: Please locate the following keys in the left pane
    > > of Registry Editor and then delete them if they exist.)
    > >
    > > HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Products\904.
    > >
    > > (Note: 904... means all registry keys beginning with 904,
    > > for example:
    > >
    > > HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Products\9040820900063D11C8EF0
    > > 0054038389C
    > >
    > > Some of these registry keys may not be present. This
    > > does not matter; carry on with the next one.)
    > >
    > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Installer\Components
    > >
    > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Installer\Features\90
    > > 4...
    > >
    > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Installer\Products\90
    > > 4...
    > >
    > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Installer\Patches
    > >
    > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office
    > >
    > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersio
    > > n\Installer\Products\904.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Installer\Components
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Installer\Features\904
    > > ....
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Installer\Products\904
    > > ....
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Installer\Patches
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi
    > > on\Installer\Products\904.
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi
    > > on\Uninstall\{9XXX0409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0050048383C9}
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi
    > > on\Uninstall\{00XXX409-78E1-11D2-B60F-006097C998E7}
    > >
    > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi
    > > on\Uninstall\{9XXX0409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}
    > >
    > > Note: Please delete all the registry keys under the
    > > above "Uninstall" key similar to :{00XXX409-78E1-11D2-
    > > B60F-006097C998E7},{9XXX0409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0050048383C9}
    > > or {9XXX0409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}
    > >
    > > (NOTE: XXX means 3 digitals)
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > (d) Quit Registry Editor.
    > >
    > > (e) Rename the "Microsoft Office" to "Microsoft Office
    > > OLD", "OfficeUpdate" "OfficeUpdate OLD" to
    > > and "OfficeUpdate11" to "OfficeUpdate11 OLD" folders
    > > located in the "C:\Program Files" folder if they exist.
    > >
    > > (f) Click Start menu-> Run, type "%Temp%" (without the
    > > quotation marks) in the Open box and press Enter.
    > >
    > > (g) Empty the %Temp% folder.
    > >
    > > (h) Empty the Recycle Bin.
    > >
    > > (i) Restart your computer and install a full version of
    > > Office. Then, go to Office Product Updates Web site to
    > > check for all available updates:
    > >
    > > http://www.officeupdate.com/ProductUpdates/default.aspx
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I hope the steps above are helpful. It's my pleasure to
    > > work with you. Thanks for your time and cooperation, and
    > > if anything is unclear, feel free to let me know. I am
    > > very happy to be of assistance.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Best regards,
    > >
    > > Jack Shuai
    > >
    > > Online Support Professional
    > > Microsoft Office Online Support
    > > <mailto:v-jacks@microsoft.com>
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > _____________________________
    > >


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