RE: Administrative Install OXP

From: Mark Plantenberg (markpl_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 05/18/04

  • Next message: David: "Installing Office 2000 Pro components not already installed"
    Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:06:19 GMT
    
    

    <EMAILSUBJECT>Newsgroup Message Response to IssueID:
    <ISSUEID></EMAILSUBJECT>
    Hi Barry,

    I wanted to inform you that I have replied to your thread in the Office
    Setup Newsgroup titled: <NEWSGROUPSUBJECT> with IssueID: <ISSUEID>.
    <a href="http://wwww.microsoft.com>

    This issue may not be as easy as a simple registry hack or reinstall. There
    are a few things to concider before 'Forcing' your updates.

    There are three basic ways to handle Office deployments
    1. SneakerNet: Running around with a CD of Office and applying client
    updates as you get time. Hard to manage and know what is what
    2. Create an Admin Point and deploy using GPO, SMS or other tool. Leave
    Admin Piont at RTM level and apply client updates.
    3. Create an Admin Point and deploy using GPO, SMS or other tool. Apply
    updates to the Admin Point and Reinstall to clients. (Only updates newer
    files)

    Options 2 and 3 are very good options and can be easy to maintain. Option
    three is less fexible as it will prevent client (non-SP) updates from being
    applied as source files will not be at the expected level.

    Rules of thumb for MSI/Office Deployments:

    DO NOT MIX CLIENT AND ADMIN PATCHING!!!

    1. If you install Office from an Admin Point that has been updated by small
    updates past RTM or Baseline level (All Office XP SP's are baselines) you
    CANNOT to apply ANY CLIENT Patches.
    2. The Adverse is also ture: If you apply some client patches to a system
    that has been installed from a baseline Admin Point and then update the
    Admin point with Newer updates, the install will go well, but the Client
    updates will be re-applied at the end of the install, effectively
    downleveling the files updated by the client patch.
    NOTE: Applying a new Service Pack obsoletes all client patches.
    3. For the most part, you need to plan on having source files available
    when applying Client updates. Many SP2 and newer FULL FILE(Admin) patches
    do not require source files but client patches do.
    4. When you create an Administrative Installation Point in Office XP, a
    property is passed to disable CD media. (DISABLEMEDIA=1) This can be
    neggated running DISABLEMEDIA-"" in the commandline while creatng wither
    the AP or the client.

    Other things to concider:
    1. Was Office deployed via GPO at some point?
    2. Do you want Office to stay in a 'Managed State'? (Managed by Group
    Policy) If so, you need to apply the updates to the Admin point (304953)
    and then perform a Redeploy of Office from the Users and Computers MMC.
    3. Do you want to have all computers using the same deployment and patching
    method? 307803
    4. Do you have other methods that would make more sence in your
    organization?

    Related Articles:
    ====
    Q307803 HOW TO: Bring an Unmanaged Installation of Office XP into a Managed
    State
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q307803
    Q312972 HOW TO: Use IntelliMirror in Windows 2000 to Deploy Office XP
    Programs
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q312972

    Setup Properties for Office XP
    http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/xp/appndx/setprop.htm
    Q283686 OFFXP: Setup Command-Line Switches
    http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q283/6/86.asp

    I hope this gives some insight. I'm sure it will bring up more questions.
    To make you future Office updates and upgrades easier, take some time now
    to think of what wouold be the best option in your environment

    Please reply directly to the thread with any updates. You may receive this
    email notification before you are able to view my reply in the newsgroup.
    If you are unable to view the reply to your thread, please send me an email
    with a description of the problem and what newsreader you are using.

    Regards,
    Mark Plantenberg
    Microsoft Customer Support Services


  • Next message: David: "Installing Office 2000 Pro components not already installed"

    Relevant Pages

    • Re: FYI for eTrust AV 7.x Users
      ... When I just had my little incident with the redistribution settings on the SBS, my clients were logging successful checks for updates, and the logs indicated that no updates were found. ... That turned out to be because I had not gone back and checked the redistribution server box for 8.x after reinstalling the redistribution server. ... installed the new remote install utility which works the same as v7 did - just edited the .ICF file the way I wanted it and ran the client upgrades from the server. ... I can't remember if it's a separate install, or if you have to click a box when you do the Agent install, but redistribution server is not installed by default. ...
      (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
    • Re: FYI for eTrust AV 7.x Users
      ... installed the new remote install utility which works the same as v7 did - ... from the server. ... I think my issues had to do with my first client upgrade - our Windows 2003 ... I think this is why the updates did not go through (although you'd think ...
      (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
    • RE: Where does SBS store its client updates?
      ... Thanks for updates. ... I am sorry to hear that SP2 have bring you some inconvenience, ... from the client application. ... You have to remove it manually after install ...
      (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
    • Re: Administrators only message
      ... stick with MS tech support on this. ... Everything worked fine after the initial install of XP64 and all apps. ... Since then been getting the Admin only message not the WU has ... I always have auto updates off and once a month, ...
      (microsoft.public.windowsupdate)
    • Re: Administrators only message
      ... Everything worked fine after the initial install of XP64 and all apps. ... Since then been getting the Admin only message not the WU has encountered an error message. ... I always have auto updates off and once a month, ...
      (microsoft.public.windowsupdate)