Re: Say "NO" to Windows Office - Try OpenOffice
From: Patriot (Ontheball_at_winners.com)
Date: 05/02/04
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 21:44:30 -0700
It appears we are now running into a learning curve thing with some folks.
Those I help love OO for it's simplicity and of course the price. I have
never used it nor had it loaded on a machine.
Our corporate interaction has us pretty well locked in on using MS products
because they are the same for all practical purposes in the countries that
can legally import and use them.
We do use Corel WordPerfect for the more intricate interoffice word
processing tasks and especially in instances where special formatting is
imperative and/or professional printing will be used.
So far the folks I point toward OO that can read and write and are somewhat
computer literate have no problems and are grateful.
Come on and put your heart into it. I just know you can do it with some
effort and determination.
Thank you
Patriot
"Chris Schatte" <caschatte@msn.com> wrote in message
news:705901c42fdf$270136e0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
Apparently someone from Microsoft if forcing you to use
their Office products. They don't force us to. We tried
OO and Star Office for our small business and home use
and found them very lacking to say the least. OO and Star
Office are marketed against Office as an alternative, and
the average daily user power or not would have to totally
re-train themselves in usage. Cost ratio vs Office,
granted, it is more but, the range of products aptly
applied to each user more than makes up the difference.
I would use my old (oem)copy of Lotus Smart Suite 97
again before either OO or Star Office....
>-----Original Message-----
>Sorry, OO is not being "stooged" for power users but for
those who need
>basic office tools at a price that is just plain okay. I
thoroughly support
>helping someone who for whatever reason does not wish to
or can not obtain
>and utilized the high powered and gawdy MS creations.
>
>Making these priced right programs available to those
who would use them is
>only common decency and will not cause lay offs at MS or
create any
>financial havoc to their organization.
>
>When I recently came on the scene this Milly person was
making an issue of a
>person attempting to assist by offering the info and
then belittleing the
>merits of OO.
>
>Perhaps she needs another weekend that isn't quite
so "bad" precluding
>propensity to mouth off at a person's attempt to help
someone else.
>
>We realize this is an MS topic board and accord it all
the immense awe,
>adoration and respectability it demands. However, I do
not believe a boundry
>is drawn which precludes a simple statement offering an
alternative to
>someone.
>
>Thank you
>
>Patriot
>
>
>"Mercury" <Mercury@matchmail.net> wrote in message
>news:c7152s$ftmcu$1@ID-84350.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> It seems you are the one who is attempting to put
someone down, while you
>> are stooging for OpenOffice. It is really not very
good, and lacks most of
>> the features power users need and want.
>>
>>
>> "Patriot" <Ontheball@winners.com> wrote in message
>> news:unWsbm7LEHA.1348@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > It's just Milly in yet another attempt to put
someone or something down.
>> Her
>> > postings are of most value when ignored. Blames it
on a bad week end.
>> >
>> > She rather resents, in this instance, the
recommendation of OO for the
>> > lesser demanding users yet extolls virtue of some
other non MS program
>and
>> > rambles on about some other somewhat obscure OS. It
appears she is even
>> hung
>> > up on Office 97 too.
>> >
>> > Patriot
>> >
>> >
>> > "Toby Ridge" <toby.ridge@markssattin.co.uk> wrote in
message
>> > news:427526E0.3D19AF79@markssattin.co.uk...
>> > > Why is this woman telling us about linux and her
smartsuite. I
>couldn't
>> > care
>> > > less and she should refrain from posting on this
newsgroup her
>> experiences
>> > of
>> > > fringe packages. she knows it well (or ought to
know it) that this is
>a
>> > MS
>> > > hosted newsgroup dealing with Ms' products.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Um, this is a forum to get assistance with
Microsoft Office, not
>OO.o
>> or
>> > > > Star Office. If you want to extol their
virtues, then post in a
>place
>> > > > appropriate to the product being extolled.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is not one of them.
>> > > >
>> > > > I use OO.o on my Linux machine (Mandrake 9.x)
and find it severely
>> > lacking
>> > > > from my expectations of what an office suite
should be. Even my old
>> > Lotus
>> > > > SmartSuite (1999?) does things a LOT better than
that program. It
>has
>> a
>> > > > LONG way to go for anyone who does more than
prepare a simple
>document
>> > or
>> > > > uses a simple list in a spreadsheet.
>> > > >
>> > > > And, as I said, the lack of a PIM is a major
drawback. Put in a
>hook
>> to
>> > > > Evolution (probably not possible now that Novell
owns it) and you
>> might
>> > > > approach 25% of the functionality already
existing in Microsoft
>Office
>> > 97.
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>> > > >
>> > > > Post all replies to the group to keep the
discussion intact. Due to
>> > > > the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all
mail sent to my
>> personal
>> > > > account will be deleted without reading.
>> > > >
>> > > > After searching google.groups.com and finding no
answer, Patriot
>> asked:
>> > > >
>> > > > | While the Microsoft public boards may not be
the most apropos area
>> to
>> > > > | put in a plug for OpenOffice it certainly is
no troll. I
>continually
>> > > > | recommend and make it available to many
occasional, home and light
>> > > > | office users.
>> > > > |
>> > > > | The MS renditions remain quite clutzy and over
loaded with junk
>even
>> > > > | after years of work. Using financial leverage
to replace
>innovation
>> > > > | and serving customer needs is the accepted
norm.
>> > > > |
>> > > > | Over pricing and scant regard for program
integrity and security
>is
>> > > > | to be expected and the reasons are quite clear
when dealing with
>MS.
>> > > > | After a few conversations with their
professional support people
>one
>> > > > | wonders what went wrong.
>> > > > |
>> > > > | So while I am forced to use many MS products I
am also quite aware
>> of
>> > > > | the laggardly incorporation of the quality
design we should be
>able
>> > > > | to expect from the worlds software leader but
probably will never
>> get.
>> > > > |
>> > > > | OpenOffice is indeed a very legitament
alternative to those who
>wish
>> > > > | not to buy the MS monsters when a much simpler
program will serve
>> > > > | their needs. So in showing consideration for
these users it is
>> > > > | totally in line to indicate there are other
options available to
>> them.
>> > > > |
>> > > > | Free is a good price for a great compromise
program.
>> > > > |
>> > > > | Thank you
>> > > > |
>> > > > | Patriot
>> > > > |
>> > > > |
>> > > > |
>> > > > |
>> > > > | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
>> > > > | <MillyS@donteventhinkaboutmailingmemvps.org>
wrote in message
>> > > > | news:%23anfhi3LEHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > > > || Tried it - didn't like it. Same with Star
Office.
>> > > > ||
>> > > > || Why you ask? Cheap MS Office knock offs
without half the
>> > > > || functionality. For dear old mum and dad, may
be enough - not for
>> > > > || power users. No PIM program, no office
automation, etc.
>> > > > ||
>> > > > || Try your trolling elsewhere, folks here are
happy to get
>assistance
>> > > > || with something that actually works as
advertised.
>> > > > ||
>> > > > ||
>> > > > || --
>> > > > || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>> > > > ||
>> > > > || Post all replies to the group to keep the
discussion intact. Due
>> to
>> > > > || the (insert latest virus name here) virus,
all mail sent to my
>> > > > || personal account will be deleted without
reading.
>> > > > ||
>> > > > || After searching google.groups.com and finding
no answer, niaxous
>> > > > || asked:
>> > > > ||
>> > > > ||| Hi,
>> > > > |||
>> > > > ||| I know I am off the subject but Windows
Office is just soo
>> expensive
>> > > > ||| to write a letter, view an exell file, view
or write a
>> presentation.
>> > > > ||| In Europe the simple office version to an
end-user is ? 500
>> ($600).
>> > > > ||| The lisence agreement that companies have to
pay per user in
>their
>> > > > ||| company is way out and companies need to
judge, analyse and
>> implent
>> > > > ||| a cheaper solution.
>> > > > ||| There's one alternative which makes live
cheaper
>> www.openoffice.org.
>> > > > |||
>> > > > ||| I downloaded this version and it's just
great to use.
>> > > > ||| It is only when you start using this open-
sourced office
>version,
>> > > > ||| you see that those MS Office mechanism you
aquired throughout
>the
>> > > > ||| years
>> > > > ||| are a bit a pain to implement but if you
stick to it(like I
>did),
>> it
>> > > > ||| will eventually avoid paying those bucks to
MS.
>> > > > ||| No need to pirate it, it's for FREE!!!!!
>> > > > ||| If you have programming skills, modify it to
suit you or your
>> > > > ||| company.
>> > > > |||
>> > > > |||
>> > > > ||| I would like to have your comments, if you
have tried to use
>> > > > ||| openoffice or why you haven't tried it, yet
or why do you
>continue
>> > > > ||| to pay when you can get the same for free.
>> > > > |||
>> > > > ||| Niax
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>
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