Re: True File Names

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In Word, when you're saving the file:

File
Save As...
There's a "Tools" menu at the top of the "Save As" dialog
Web Options

The various tabs and settings in there may be of some help. Post back with your results--

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Susan Ramlet
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"Peter" <padavies> wrote in message news:35C891D1-ED02-4F29-BA37-A8B23E6D3833@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Susan

Looks like you're onto something here.

Can you please tell me where to find "Web Options" and in particular the two
switches you set. If I could set "use long file names" then presumably Word
would save in long format with lower case names and my problem would be
solved.
I couldn't find "Use long file names" anywhere.

It doesn't answer my original question, but should solve my problem, so I'll
be happy with that.
--
Peter


"Susan Ramlet" wrote:

Strange...

I wasn't able to duplicate your experience; here's what I did: I used Word
2003 to create a document with a single image (inserted from clipart). I let
Word do its thing and saved it as filtered HTML to my desktop. Word named
the document as Doc1.htm, with the supporting image file in a folder called
"Doc1_files". Inside is a single image file shown as image001.gif, and the
img src is "Doc1_files/image001.gif", as expected.

I dragged and dropped everything over to our Unix server (we're set up that
way), and everything went over exactly as it was on my local system. The
page opens and the image is displayed in the page.

Not sure what the difference would be. I thought it might be jpg versus gif,
so I inserted a jpg as well, and it saved it as image002.jpg. Copied over
and it worked fine.

In my Web Options, I have selected compatibility with "Microsoft Internet
Explorer 4.0 or Later", and "Use long file names whenever possible" is
checked. Could it be a save setting in Word?

I agree; the inline styles thing is annoying.

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Susan Ramlet
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"Peter" <padavies> wrote in message
news:59A70F99-CCBE-43FE-AD1B-0A7EB57D54BA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Susan
>
> My FTP host and client display file names as they are, and not > converted
> to
> lower case as Explorer does. Take a look at
> http://www.wellesbourne.f9.co.uk/welsweb/wwn/April09/ . You will see > that
> most of the image files, IMAGE001.JPG ... are in uppper case, but one I
> edited, Image016.gif , which appears after IMAGE024.JPG because 'm'
> appears
> later in the collating sequence than 'M', is in mixed case. Notice too
> that
> there are 2 versions of some of the Html files such as MENU.HTM and
> menu.htm,
> since these are different names on a Unix box. It is difficult to > rename
> or
> delete in the FTP environment so I just renamed them and sent them > again.
>
> I am not familiar with any other groups - can you give me the address > of
> the
> best one to post on please?
>
> I don't use Word to edit html, only to create it from word docs.
> Word 2003 creates far too much code, even in Filtered mode. Unfiltered
> there's so much extra code it's impossible to see the text.
> Word 98 is quite good - it creates minimal html, though it doesn't nest
> tags
> correctly.
> Another problem with Word 2003 is it slavishly reproduces local > overrides
> instead of noticing that large swathes of text have common formatting
> which
> a good web developer would put into a css declaration at the head of > the
> file
> or externally.
>
> With the file naming I suspect Word might be in a time warp:
> When I create a picture file in Paintshop 6 it is named as I choose, > and
> if
> I leave off the extension it puts on the appropriate one in lower case.
> When I create a picture file in Paintshop 3, which is of a Dos > generation
> it
> is in 8.3 format in upper case. I suspect that the picture file > generation
> module in Word has not been updated as no-one saw any need to do so, > since
> it
> appears to work in a case-oblivious environment.
> -- > Peter
>
> "Susan Ramlet" wrote:
>
>> Oh, weird. (I would have definitely checked into the ftp client. Is >> your
>> ftp
>> client representing the names as Windows Explorer does?) You might >> want
>> to
>> post over on one of the Windows newsgroups to see if that's a known
>> issue.
>> There are more OS experts that hang out over there. I know that, in
>> Windows
>> Explorer, I can rename file into upper/lower/mixed case and it will
>> display
>> them as such, so I don't know why it's displaying upper-case filenames >> as
>> lower-case.
>>
>> That said, I'll try it myself and see if I can duplicate the issue.
>>
>> (I don't use Word for HTML (it's not a great HTML editor, thought the
>> save
>> as "filtered" option is really, really super). But if the >> functionality
>> is
>> there, you'd expect it to be consistent within itself and be somewhat
>> standards-oriented. I also am annoyed that Sharepoint sites create
>> upper-case HTML tags, which is not standard, so I'm not terribly
>> surprised).
>>
>> I'll post back with my results, FWIW.
>>
>> -- >> Susan Ramlet
>> **please reply to the newsgroup so others may benefit**
>>
>>
>> "Peter" <padavies> wrote in message
>> news:B552FF46-A79D-4F16-9C86-951E2B179B7E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Hi Susan,
>> > I'm using Word 2003 (11.8237.8221) SP3. When I Save as Web Page
>> > Filtered,
>> > the src= references in the html are all lower case, the picture >> > files
>> > are
>> > listed in Windows Explorer in all lower case, but when I FTP them >> > over
>> > to
>> > the
>> > web host, which is a Unix box, I can see that they are named all in
>> > upper
>> > case.
>> >
>> > The pictures and other files I create myself are named and listed in
>> > mixed
>> > case - all lower except where I choose to put capitals. These FTP
>> > across
>> > OK
>> > and I can reference them exactly as I specified them, so it is not >> > FTP
>> > changing the form.
>> >
>> > Word is inconsitent in creating in one form and referencng in >> > another,
>> > and
>> > Explorer is misleading in representing in lower case when the names >> > are
>> > actually in upper case.
>> >
>> > I was hoping to find a utility (maybe 3rd party) which displays file
>> > names
>> > in their true form. Explorer clearly does not.
>> > -- >> > Peter
>> >
>> >
>> > "Susan Ramlet" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, Peter,
>> >>
>> >> Windows Explorer shows them in the case that they are saved in.
>> >>
>> >> What version of Word are you using?
>> >>
>> >> -- >> >> Susan Ramlet
>> >> **please reply to the newsgroup so others may benefit**
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Peter" <padavies> wrote in message
>> >> news:AA767EB7-3828-4F11-BD2C-1DCC50BB823D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > How can I find out the true name of a file?
>> >> > Windows Explorer normally shows file names in mostly lower case,
>> >> > which
>> >> > doesn't matter in a case-oblivious environment like Windows, but
>> >> > when I
>> >> > send
>> >> > them to a case sensitive environment like Unix it does.
>> >> > When saving a Word doc to Html, Word saves pictures with all >> >> > upper
>> >> > case
>> >> > names, but then in the Html references them in lower case, which >> >> > is
>> >> > inconsistent, and downright frustrating when the page fails to >> >> > find
>> >> > the
>> >> > picture.
>> >> > -- >> >> >
>> >>
>>


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